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re Facebook and the pictures of James Bulger's killers

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NessieMcFessie · 15/02/2013 16:11

A friend of mine on Facebook has posted the pictures of James Bulger's killers as they look 'today'. I have no idea where they have come from or if they are actually the two men involved (and I don't know if she knows any of this information).

AIBU to report these pictures? She has had loads of support under her post.

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AgentZigzag · 15/02/2013 22:48

I've read a book by Paul Britton Pigs, don't know if it's the one you're talking about, it was mostly about Rachel Nickell.

And saying he's making the money off the backs of murdered children is pretty low Cortana.

He's a forensic psychologist, and I'm doing a masters degree in forensic psychology, does that make me cashing in on them too? Hmm

LittleChimneyDroppings · 15/02/2013 22:48

You haven't rambled ifancyashandy. Makes perfect sense to me.

Mrcrumpswife · 15/02/2013 22:49

In mrcrumpswifes world putting 2 severely neglected and damaged children in prison = love bombing

They didnt serve a single day in prison, they were housed in a childrens secure unit. The method of rehabilitation used was a form of love bombing to try and undo the wiring that had caused the emotional damage leading up to the crime they committed. Education and opportunity was going to cure them. It was an experiment that did not work. A bloody expensive one aswell. How many times did the Home office pop in and check on these 2. Is that normal practice?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1256109/Robert-Thompson-Social-worker-looked-James-Bulger-killer-speaks.html

Cant be arsed to provide lazy Mners with more reputable links so find them yourself.

As for JV, he outed himself so not a lot anyone can be found guilty of if they are sharing his picture. He should stop drinking and getting pissed really. It might help the attorney General build a case to protect himHmm

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1297532/Jon-Venables-bragged-killing-James-Bulger-drunken-rant.html

Cortana · 15/02/2013 22:50

You didn't ramble Ifancya, I can see your point. Perhaps this massive reaction and the anger that comes from it is part of a deeper shame? Being part of a society that created and enabled the crime and the feeling of helplessness that followed.

Cortana · 15/02/2013 22:51

Depends Agent, are you planning on selling a book based on your professional role in high profile emotive cases?

chicaguapa · 15/02/2013 22:54

I just PM'd a friend to ask him to think about deleting the photo as he didn't know it's definitely them and I didn't want to see it on my feed. He's a good friend and I didn't want to fall out with him about it but I was disappointed that he'd shared it. He's deleted it now and apologised for upsetting me. I'd noticed no-one had commented on it either.

Cortana · 15/02/2013 22:55

Dear me, even the social worked sold her story.

AgentZigzag · 15/02/2013 22:56

You're talking about him as though he's making money from a crime he's committed Cortana.

Are you suggesting people shouldn't read about the realities of some peoples lives? They shouldn't be discussed in books because it's distasteful?

Who would be able to talk about it? Only those directly involved?

theisleofsheppey · 15/02/2013 22:57

I still wonder why their parents were not prosecuted

to neglect children to the extent they did that?

But it was interesting to read in the Guardian that many involved in the case felt that the boys killed him because they were too tired and did not know what to do with him?

we will never know, but it upsets us all so lets not get too cross with each other

pigletmania · 15/02/2013 22:57

Blooming hell Mrscrumple put JV inan adult rison and te him geton with it. He's an adult and should be responsible for his actions nt mollycoddled

quoteunquote · 15/02/2013 22:58

When I look at my sons at that age,(one still is) they were just not capable of even torturing an ant.

I have to think what would it be that I would have to do to turn them into a child that could hurt and kill,

it would take quite a lot, to make a child able to do those things, they would to have experienced things that are totally unimaginable to my children,

if those boys had grown up in my home they wouldn't be able to hurt anything,

and I'm sure if my boys had grown up in their circumstances they would not be the lovely kind gentle people they are,

If you don't like what happened, be very sure that no one is falling through the gaps today, anywhere or we as a society have failed to learn from this, maybe that is one reason people get so angry, they are a reminder that somehow, despite everything we are not a civilised society, in which all children are protected.

Mrcrumpswife · 15/02/2013 23:02

Blooming hell Mrscrumple put JV in an adult prison and te him geton with it. He's an adult and should be responsible for his actions nt mollycoddled

I couldnt agree more piglet.

Cortana · 15/02/2013 23:03

Not by professional who were hired to be involved in the case Agent. It raises questions of why the accepted the job and their motives throughout. A social worker selling her story also seems low.

I always though the individuals who had to take up the job of ensuring justice and care for all involved would have had to follow some sort of data protection or privacy guidance.

I mean imagine you had to have social services or police or expert witnesses involved in a case involving your child. Where they would hear graphic details of the crime they committed or they were a victim of. Imagine turning to them at your darkest moment, then finding out the story had been sold.

gimmecakeandcandy · 15/02/2013 23:04

Thank goodness for mrscrumpswife, pigletmania and some of the others talking sense. Gordy, yes do go bang your head against a wall, might knock some sense into you.

theisleofsheppey · 15/02/2013 23:05

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I agree, and it suprises me that we are not having this discussion in the wider media

what society do we have that we allow children to remain in these environments, what created them?

we all know children can be trained to kill, look at sierra leona as one example

pigletmania · 15/02/2013 23:07

Thanks gummy at last someone who agrees with me, thought Mumsnet was full of apologists tonight

gordyslovesheep · 15/02/2013 23:07

how nice of you Gimme :) knock some sense into me - thanks :)

I am drowning in irony right now - and red wine - which I am off to drink

sane people - don't spend too much time trying to debate with irrational people - night x

pigletmania · 15/02/2013 23:09

Thought I was a lone voice in the wilderness Grin. JV should now be in an adult prison and responble for his behaviour. How long is the government going to keep nannying him

pigletmania · 15/02/2013 23:10

Right Gordy we are rational because we don't agree with you

pigletmania · 15/02/2013 23:10

Meant irrational

YouTheCat · 15/02/2013 23:10

Hasn't JV committed crimes against children as an adult? I'm pretty sure he has.

Had he gone on to lead an anonymous life as an adult I'd say fair enough for him to keep his privacy, but he hasn't and so I think his picture should be plastered about so people know who he is and what he is capable of.

gordyslovesheep · 15/02/2013 23:12

no - you are irrational because you ignore other peoples perfectly salient and rational points and stoop to insulting peoples spelling when you can't think of anything else to say

which is so massively ironic it may kill me Grin

pigletmania · 15/02/2013 23:12

Exactly youthecat. He is doing a good job of making himself anonymous

ifancyashandy · 15/02/2013 23:13

Thank you Cortana & LittleChimeys.

I don't have children but I have nieces, nephews, godchildren and honor'ies... Every single one of them knows right from wrong. They range from 11 to 30 and I'd say they knew the correct moral code from, what, 5? You've all taught me - via your lovely, humorous, stories that your toddlers will sing like canaries at a 'wrong-doing'.

Which makes the lack of moral code in this horrific crime all the more visible.

pigletmania · 15/02/2013 23:13

I have not criticised anyone's spelling, it's mine that's rubbish tonight. I understand your points but cannot agree with some of them

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