to wonder WTF would it take for people stop eating "meat"

[ElenorRigby]

Just that really!

The opinion is stated as fact Hully and is incorrect and offensive. I am a murderer, less evolved, knowing less... I'm stupid. Pretty antagonistic.

Meh. Don't really have a problem with you though. Unless you defend that sort of twattery!

Exactly bogey,

IMO nothing will stop the terminally dull and stupid from criticising the choirs of others.

Speciesism or whatever the hell it is?! :o

Would you have a go at a lion for being speciesist? (sp?!) No because it is doing what nature designed it to do in order to survive, and guess what....so am I!

CHOICES not choirs. FFS

aldi - I never notice that stuff, it floats overhead, I don't mind what people say and think, I consider what they say and then make my own mind up. It doesn't bother me though.

I think that if you think about it hard enough, eating animals isn't a nice thing to do. I likes animals and I think I can block it out and eat the cute little piggies because I live in my own bubble of ignorant denial.

It's the same one that allows me to drink lots of wine and eat too much chocolate. I just ignore the fact that I know it's not the right thing to do.

I am pathetic

So after all that self pity I summise that I am a carnivorous veggie sympathiser.

Ah, soz gerrof, am with you now

Dragon to be fair, I criticise others choirs all the time. There are some truly AWFUL ones around here :o

hully I would uphold your right to be a vegetarian until my death (from meat-eating-induced cardiac arrest, natch)

but this thread (or at least the OP) is not in the spirit of that...is it now ?

be honest, chuck...I like it when you are honest

Well flip it round. If you animal eaters are perfectly happy and confident in your choices and behaviour, why the hell do you care what one lone vegetarian says??

Nooooo hully - I meant your post "It's me that's odd, isn't it?"

Tbh after years of being a committed carnivore, I am quietly attempting to go vegetarian. I try to buy ethical meat but tbh I don't trust that it all is. And I am starting to find it hard to get my head round how animals are slaughtered.

But that's a persona thing, I won't judge others. I said that I was going to try and be meat free to dd and she said 'oh bloody hell'

Actually I found being a veggie & aspiring vegan to be far more of an ethical contradiction, because when you start really learning about food production, you realise that if you think being vegetarian or even vegan means you are not a 'murderer', you are absolutely DREAMING. Thinking that just means you have no idea at all about food production, and no conception of the myriad of products we absolutely rely on that are in some way derived from animals. Just because you don't see it happening in front of your face anymore doesn't mean that our lives aren't still intrinsically linked to our livestock.

If food scares put people off the product involved - tomatoes, watermelons, the nonmeat list is endless - we'd soon run out of stuff to eat. Yes, the system can be shit, but "meat" isn't the issue.

It's not about teeth, its about the digestive system. A gorillia might be closely related but a chimpanzee is marginally closer by a million years and its a nasty bugger, practicing infantcide, with the odd warthog thrown in for good measure

I raise my own meat. It has a lovely life. Until I kill it and eat it. (I outsource the killing bit, I must confess). I do agree that meat eaters are very divorced from the reality of eating meat, judging by the comments I often get about the eating of our pigs. Some people comment negatively on how we can possibly eat animals we have known, but they are never the vegetarians

x posts

the thing is...

meat eaters and non-meat eaters can be completely harmonious in their choices

I have a sausage...you have a carrot

all is well

this OP is upsetting the equilibrium

af - eh? what do you mean? Do you mean the op is goady?

I AGREE WITH IT

I dont care what you feel is right for you, but I do take exception to being criticised for my choices when I dont criticise you for yours. That would be the same if we were talking about BF v FF, BLW v Purees or Knickers V Commando! Its called respecting others choices and you seem pathologically unable to do that.

I suppose I don't like to be accused of something I don't believe I am...

NotADragonOfSoup nothing will stop the terminally dull and stupid from criticising the choirs of others - I like this better, sounds far more profound

My stepson has been vegetarian for years, but he was vegan for about a year and I had no idea how difficult it would be to buy food for. It seems that animal derived products are in bloody everything.

despite my attention-seeking posts about rolling around in meat, I actually eat very little of it

and have no issue with a vegetarian lifestyle

I do have issue with someone telling me what I should do though...which is what OP is attempting, by a strange sort of bollocks