To think you don't let your toddler play with noisy electic games on a packed train?

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Or any train for that matter. I was on jam packed train at the weekend (no spare seats, aisle full of people standing up) and one woman was sat with her small child playing with a toy that said 'triangle', 'square' etc when the kid pressed each shape. I was a couple of seats in front & could hear it! AIBU to think this was utterly selfish of the mum? Other people were giving her the evils but she seemed oblivious.

I'm always right

Someone played Call of Duty once on a train - 2 hours of 'fire in the hold' or whatever they say followed by an explosion and gunfire. I hated that man.

Thing is travelling on a commuter journey is so bloody relentlessly grim anyway. You can't expect to live in a bubble. Even on the quiet carriage you get loud typers. (which is really annoying for some reason). You just have to put up with it, or drive your own car.

Of course a child should get more consideration because of their age.

What MechanicalTheatre and woozlebear said

misspricklepants

So people being loud on phones in carriages annoys you and you ask how is there a difference? There is no difference, a nuisance noise is still a nuisance and I would not use my phone loudly on a train just as I wouldn't have noisy toys on a train.

'Of course a child should get more consideration because of their age'

Of course the child would want the sound on but it's the parent's job to switch it off. I don't think anyone is having a go at the child!

Mind you, I could have happily lobbed a kids phone out of the bus window, after I had listened to gangnam style on repeat for half an hour.

if the train was packed then i doubt there would have been the room for colouring?

and the parent was trying to stop the child rolling around on the floor by giving them a toy to play with?

what is this children should be seen and not heard stuff? kids are kids, they do make noise. they do exist in public spaces.

usualsuspect so you think a child should be able to pick and choose what it wants to do all the time? Do you not think this could be bad for the child's upbringing if they don't know their boundaries?

Do you think the same of Jon Venables and Robert Thompson? I know completely extreme but you think because they were kids, even though they knew between right and wrong they shouldn't have gone to prison?

What?

Sorry, had to pick DS up. Glossy thank you for your kind words regarding my parenting skills. I am lucky to have a really lovely boy, but, when it comes to leaving the house with him screaming and crying because I took his relatively small vtech tambourine away, or, saying, do you know what, happy son happy mother and letting him take it with him, I chose the later. We always take books. He loves them. But sometimes life is too short. And yes I do notice the withering glances. But I am at the age where I choose to ignore them. For the record, I also get withering looks when he's sat nicely on my lap saying 'blueberries!' Over and over again for half an hour. So be it.

Now you are being weird.

Of course a child should get more consideration because of their age

Well over some things, sure, but not when it's a matter of easily avoidable inconsiderate behaviour. After all, as glossy said, how on earth are children to grow up to be polite considerate adults if they're not expected to be in childhood? Surely if they're allowed to play with loud annoying gadgets on trains they'll just turn into adults who think it's fine to play loud annoying gadgets on trains? It's not like there's no alternative, that's the key thing, there's plenty of quiet toys out there.

And anyway, it's not really the child you're asking for special consideration for, is it? It's the parent because they have a child. It was her who chose what toy the child had, after all - her behaviour, her decision. The child would probably been perfectly happy with something else.

The average commuter makes a lot of noise.

Drunkards.

Jonty telling his wife 'I am due into Reading at 6.40, see you then'

Kids listening to music on their stereos just loud enough so you can hear the bass but not loud enough so you can work out what the song is so it drives you mad.

The fucking LOUD TYPERS again.

People with an ancient Nokia who haven't turned the keypad tones off and text very slowly going beep beep beep beep.

People repeatedly zipping and unzipping bags with 1000 zips on them.

Rustling carrier bags.

The noise an iphone makes when a text comes in repeated constantly throughout the carriage.

What?!?! Oh I get it. You're bonkers. I give up!

I really just have been on the wrong trains. unusually end up with drink guys talking to me, complete nutters harassing me. Stuck in carriages with poppers being handed round or kids trying to sell me xmas notes. and that's if I've been lucky enough to get a seat in an actual carriage. Usually I end up sat in my bag in between as its the only available space and people walking past me to go to the loo every five mins. A talking toy would make a pleasant change

Have any of you ever asked a person/parent to turn off their damn racket music in public? I have seen it done on a bus once - an adult man turned to a teenage boy who was blaring his music out of his phone and just said 'dude, please'. Teenage boy gave a slight nod and switched it off. Just like that. I was in awe. Although adult man was built like a brick outhouse which may have had something to do with it!

oh my fucking JESUS CHRIST ALIVE

Why make the connection between a child having a bit of license to play on a train = Venables and Thompson ended up doing what they did because they were indulged and had no boundaries.

How bloody moronic is that.

who are these people?

I have asked someone to turn their stereo down on the quiet carriage. And they have. But then I did it recently and the kid told me to fuck off.

So I probably won't bother again.

Lotta, yes, I have. I got told to move to another seat if I didn't like it. There were no other seats. And the language was a lot more colourful than that.

'But then I did it recently and the kid told me to fuck off'

Charming Maybe he was given noisy electronic toys to play with in public when he was a toddler and now feels it is his inalienable right to do so whenever he feels like it?

Joking aside though, that's horrible GetOrf, must have been very intimidating

I just looked at him. He was about 20 or so. I asked him ever so politely, I didn'yt do my whole Joan Sanderson act. I have asked people before and they have been fine and turned the stereo down.

He was only on the train about 8 minutes, from one stop to the next. When he got off the rest of us just very englishly shook our heads and tutted.

I think he was pissed btw.

As someone who suffers from misophonia, repetitive noises like 'triangle' said over again is much worse than changing sounds like a conversation. If i had to listen to someone or something saying the same word over again I may have been forced to injure myself. My hearts beating faster just thinking of the panic I would feel and the desperate need to 'get out' at all costs.