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to back off from a friend because his girlfriend is jealous?

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Theicingontop · 10/02/2013 14:23

I'll try to keep it short. Basically, my friend has had an on-off relationship with the mother of his children for a few years. I have never met her, we are former colleagues and have kept in touch over facebook, the odd coffee or lending books to eachother etc.

I guess we have very unique similar interests, so we don't have anyone else we know that have any of the same hobbies, not even my OH (who thinks I'm a massive geek and is thankful to friend for keeping it out of his earshot Blush) which means that we talk a fair bit. We get on really well.

Recently, he's back on with his ex. And she's told him that she isn't happy with him talking to me, and that she's always suspected that my friend may have feelings for me. She's asked him to cut me out of his life, basically.

I'm shocked, and a bit upset. But I understand. I've tried to imagine it from her point of view, their relationship is unsteady, and she has reason to not fully trust him around other women. He slept with one of our colleagues when they were broken up... I think in her position I'd be wary too. He's told me he's not going to stop speaking to me, and that she's being unreasonable.

Is this any of my business? No. But has he told me anyway? Yes. So I feel kind of responsible for her feelings, being that our friendship seems to be causing her pain. So, would it be best to back off despite his insistence that he doesn't want me to? I don't know.

Tell me to move this to relationships if it's misplaced, I thought I could get some good answers from you guys.

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BuggerLumpsAnnoyed · 10/02/2013 14:26

I personally would continue the friendship. You're doing nothing wrong

TidyDancer · 10/02/2013 14:27

She is being unreasonable. He slept with someone else while they were broken up. Unless this was you, and/or it was actually while they were together, him letting her dictate his friends is a bad move to make.

I don't have much respect for anyone who tries to control their OH, and that includes dictating their friendships.

Don't back off, let your friend decide what happens. He sounds quite sensible thus far.

FayCorgasm · 10/02/2013 14:30

It doesn't really bode well for their relationship if she is being like this so I would keep your friendship. If you were to stop talking to him, it might suggest that she did have something to worry about after all. She needs to work on her issues with his loyalty with him or the next woman to come along will be told to back off, and then the next one etc. She can't go on like that until the entire female race isn't allowed to talk to him, can she?

Rooneyisalwaysmoaning · 10/02/2013 14:32

Oh I hate this Sad especially if the bloke goes with it.

One of my closest friends got himself a girlfriend a year or so ago. Bit more.
When they got together, he said she was super jealous and I thought, well whatever, she is very young. We still spoke on the phone (he lives miles away).
He was planning to come here for a visit a few months into it and he put a note through my door at 6m saying he couldn't see me after all, too much family stuff going on Hmm I knew it was because of her. And when I blew up at him, he admitted it.

The thing is I think he kind of enjoys it - having someone want him that much that he's banned from seeing his other girl friends. And that I find a bit horrible.

If you feel like any games are being played, then back right off - don't et involved. Otherwise just carry on regardless.

Rooneyisalwaysmoaning · 10/02/2013 14:32

6am sorry

SandCastlesGoSquash · 10/02/2013 14:33

Have you got any way of contacting her, and sending a message along the lines of "Hey, It's lovely to hear you and friend are back together, Me DH and the DC were planning to [go for a meal/go to the beech/go to softplay/go to the zoo] so on, and were wondering if you, friend and DC would like to come? Would be nice to meet you!"
Then if you don't get a response then maybe back off a bit, but hopefully it will show her that you aren't interested in her DP, by mentioning DH too, and will go down better than you inviting her through her DP which she would probably see as you just inviting him.

Greensleeves · 10/02/2013 14:35

I lost a very close male friend this way and I still resent itSad

I don't think you should back off if it's not what he wants. Let him decide how to handle her. It doesn't sound fantastic anyway; I suspect he is going to need his friends!

Theicingontop · 10/02/2013 14:40

I suggested that, SandCastles, well suggested messaging her anyway. He said it would make things worse, her knowing that he's talking about it to me. Sad

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scarletforya · 10/02/2013 14:49

And she's told him that she isn't happy with him talking to me, and that she's always suspected that my friend may have feelings for me. She's asked him to cut me out of his life, basically

I think the wife is onto something. I think he has feelings for you. I also think he's betrayed her by discussing their private conversations with you. It's crossing a line. You've done nothing wrong, neither has the wife but I wouldn't trust your friend as far as I could throw him. I'd have a very poor view of a man like him.

HarrySnotter · 10/02/2013 14:49

I had a very similar situation a couple of years ago. I really didn't want to lose my friend of 20+ years but knew he was in love with this girl. I sent her a message on facebook suggesting we meet for a coffee and a chat and she did, we got on really well and all was and is OK. She's a good friend now, but I do appreciate that this very much depends on the kind of woman she is.

VerlaineChasedRimbauds · 10/02/2013 14:52

I don't know. I think you may only have his side/version of his relationship with her and what she has said to him (and he to her). If she has reason to not completely trust him around other women then I honestly think I do understand how she may feel. I think he is being disingenuous to think that she should be happy for him to continue his friendship with you: it is entirely possible that he talked about you A LOT and that she is quite right about him fancying you/having feelings for you.

I think the solution is for you to meet up as a foursome until things are happier. If he wants to make it work with his partner, that doesn't seem like an unreasonable thing to agree to. He could also offer to show her any emails, texts etc from you - isn't that what people might advise if it were your friend's partner/ex who were writing an OP on Mumsnet?

You can't really dictate how he behaves though, but you may find that you get the blame for things not working out if he can't cool things down for a while in terms of your friendship.

It really is possible that she's right you know. He may well have feelings for you.

MusicalEndorphins · 10/02/2013 14:53

I can see him telling you if he was going to end your friendship, but why did he tell you I wonder?

Timetoask · 10/02/2013 15:01

I can see why she is worried given his history (I don't see it as trying to control him, she is right to feel insecure)
Could you maybe invite them both over for dinner or something so that she can see you and your oh together and up her ind at rest?

Goldenbear · 10/02/2013 15:02

YANBU but if you have never met her is it as straightforward as that? It could be that he does have feelings for you and is using her as an excuse to keep away. Or maybe he himself doesn't want to see you as much and is being lazy with his excuses? When I first started living in a shared house scenario with my DP, a good friend (a girl) of my DP's accused me of not letting me see him. It was not the case at all but she had made these presumptions. The reality was that we did a lot of lazy activities in the shared house with the other 2 people that lived in the house and didn't go out much. She was more than welcome to come around to visit but she didn't. DP didn't want to meet her out and about on his own but I didn't stop him. We were loved up and selfish I suppose. My suspicions in this case were that her nose was out of joint as the house was all men that were friends of hers and she was quite loud, attention seeker type, very tactile with all of them and I think she didn't feel it was the same dynamic with her visits when I started to live in the house. Again though I don't know this for sure.

complexnumber · 10/02/2013 15:06

You don't know her and wouldn't be in contact with her in any way but your friend has decided to bring you into his drama. If he doesn't want anything to change he had no need to say anything. Instead he has bad-mouthed his partner and told you he is choosing you over her. Even if he is deluded I think his partner is right that in his head you are more than a friend to him.

Ragwort · 10/02/2013 15:06

I would back off, it all sounds very teenagerish doesn't it, and as scarlet says, why is he pursuing your friendship and hobby rather than trying to get back on track with his girlfriend and children. The fact he is telling you all about it also shows he probably likes 'being the centre of attention'.

earlierintheweek · 10/02/2013 15:09

Keep the door open for your friend. He might need you some day.

amillionyears · 10/02/2013 15:16

I would back off.

Then, if it all goes wrong, which is quite likely, your friendship with him will not be affected.

If the relationship gets back on track between him and his ex, then be glad for him.

quoteunquote · 10/02/2013 15:20

Invite her out for lunch, break the ice.

I've got quite a few male friends, I always make sure that their partners get to know me, so they don't have any worries, most of my friends have exceedingly good taste in women, so I have met some brilliant new friends this way, even when they have broken up, I still get to keep a new friend,

My husband has quite a few female friends, he make sure that he gets to know any partners, you don't want your friend to feel awkward.

Trills · 10/02/2013 15:28

I'd say it's up to him to deal with his girlfriend's issues.

If he backs off from you, then he backs off.

If he doesn't, then things continue.

You are doing nothing wrong.

Why would it be your responsibility to make her feel better?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 10/02/2013 15:29

Hmm... why did he feel the need to tell you about it at all? He would only do that surely if he wanted you to back off - or to have somebody else showing him attention?

I think that a decent man would have the conversation with his girlfriend only; it only concerns her and him, nobody else, and it's his decision to make whether he wants to remain friends with you. He's passed the responsibility on to you somehow. That's a bit wet really. Hmm

amillionyears · 10/02/2013 15:34

ok, bottom line op.
Do you want his relationship to work with his ex?

Theicingontop · 10/02/2013 15:37

I don't think he has any romantic interest in me whatsoever, I've never had that feeling from him Confused

I know that she reads the texts I send him, he said he doesn't hide his messages or anything from her. I can't think of anything I've said that indicates there are feelings between us.

Knowing how she feels about me, I've been thinking twice before posting things on his facebook, or sending him texts at all... Unless somehow she feels differently some time soon, I don't think I'm going to feel very comfortable having the same sort of friendship. And that's quite gutting really.

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Theicingontop · 10/02/2013 15:41

I do, amillionyears, if he thinks it'll work then I'm very happy for him, and his boys, who he misses a lot.

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amillionyears · 10/02/2013 16:01

Can I ask how old you are.

Now my own family is getting older, I can see there is a bit of generational difference going on.

The teenagers and early 20s at least often have friends of both sexes, and cant see a problem at all, in say your situation.

But older people, on the whole, can see where there might be problems.

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