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AIBU?

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To hate the police?

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DrHolmes · 07/02/2013 17:32

BF was pulled over by an unmarked police car today. He got out of his van and was told he was not wearing his seatbelt and they issued him with a £60 ticket. I came home from work and he told me the story and told me he was wearing it. He has a beeper that goes off every few seconds if he doesnt have it on and no one would drive about listening to that. I know he is telling the truth. If we appeal it then we put our case forward and then goes to court but if the fiscal find the police in favour we will have a higher fine. But i do not want him to pay the fine because that is letting them away with this. Corrupt filth. Not sure what to do :/

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YouWithTheFace · 07/02/2013 19:17

If the policeman was corrupt, surely he would have offered to 'make the fine go away' for a small fee? Or he would have accepted the note that one keeps in one's driver's licence pouch for this purpose, without comment, and sent your boyf on his way. I don't think you entirely understand how to work with corruption, or how to identify it. Possibly your complaint here ought to be about perceived police bias, or misuse of power, but this is definitely not corruption. Also, you give no evidence as to the officer's state of cleanliness, whether moral or physical, so filth may also be an inaccurate term here.

/pedantry

Seriously, get a life. Some cops are up themselves, some are diamonds, they're human. Appeal if you're so sure your boyfriend was right. Police have to listen to idiots every day who are convinced they're not criminals just because they've had one beer too many/weren't doing that thing you said they were. Scrape a few bodies up at 2am and see how sympathetic you are to someone who is confrontational and thinks you're filth.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM · 07/02/2013 19:20

Corrupt Police - first hand experience. 2001. Mexico City.

(thankfully I was not in the car, having to attend a meeting in the hotel)

Colleagues being driven to work at the airport. Police pull them over, get them out of the car, point guns at their heads. Show them a bag of drugs. Tell them, in no uncertain terms, that if they don't hand over all their cash they will arrest them for possession and they will die in a Mexcian jail.

THAT is corrupt. I don't think the UK Police are quite as bad really....

Seenenoughtoknow · 07/02/2013 19:20

Vicar - it was ABH, but we discovered after the case he had broken her jaw (she was in so much other pain with kidneys, bowels etc she had hardly noticed the jaw pain) so I believe it would have been GBH had that been known?

Anyway - no matter - he got off.

Like I said, just relaying my experiences, which proves in my eyes that one or two aren't as straight as the rest of you.

Seenenoughtoknow · 07/02/2013 19:21

Although, I Wouldn't go as far as saying all police are filth obviously.

DharmaBums · 07/02/2013 19:21

YABU.. and probably a bit blinded to your BF lying too

you sound a nasty piece of work

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DrHolmes · 07/02/2013 19:23

Ok people, I do understand there are good ones and bad ones. But I also think there alot of deals going on behind the scenes that we do not know about....yet.

I was just feeling sorry for my bf when I posted. Since been to zumba and relieved some stress. So apologies to people offended but I really do think it's unfair and I do think police are bullies with a power trip.

I watched the documentary/series about Police officers that was on a few months ago and one of the policewomen said "It's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, but in my eyes everyone is guilty until proven innocent." Sums it up to me. (I said "to me" ok? so don't take the hump.)

He is going to appeal.

Thanks for the posts. And to whoever said I sound charming..I am :)

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Branleuse · 07/02/2013 19:25

yanbu to have a mistrust of them. yabu to hate them all as people.

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/02/2013 19:28

YABU

corrupt filth

chicaguapa · 07/02/2013 19:30

My dad is ex-police. Unfortunately my Dbro had a very unpleasant experience with the police, backed up by the other passengers in the car and he made a complaint. If our dad hadn't been in the police, it would have changed his view of them for ever.

So yes, there are some real dickheads out there whose power goes to their heads. But there are in every profession. YABU to make such comments based on one incident at which you weren't even present and are basing it on hearsay.

AIBU to say it's usually a certain type of person who has that attitude towards the police and you sound just like one of them? Or is it just the OP that's allowed to generalise and be derogatory?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 07/02/2013 19:32

I bet that DrHolmes would be on the phone to the 'corrupt filth' in a heartbeat if she was burgled.

And she'd be up,in arms if anyone said that all van drivers are lunatic drivers with no respect for the rules of the road.

Ashoething · 07/02/2013 19:32

Am on the fence with this one. I had dealings with the police when I was younger and they were horrible to my family. Were next to useless when dealing with my abusive stepdad and pretty much told my mum it was all her fault for being a single parent

Dh works alongside the police also and he doesnt have a very high opinion of them either. I think people put them on a par with the all nurses are "angels" bollocks and sadly its not true.

amillionyears · 07/02/2013 19:44

You did say elsewhere that you think the justice system is a joke.
What did you mean by that?

ThatVikRinA22 · 07/02/2013 19:44

seen - if it was a section 47 and a domestic in England then the case must have been put to the CPS - Im always wary of second hand stories relayed 'from a friend' your friend may well be right in her disgust if he got off and -and he may have got off with a caution - but there will be more to it than that - there is policy and procedure to follow and im pretty certain that a S47 (and a domestic to boot) cannot be written off just because they like the guy - it truly doesnt work that way. If it had your friend would have grounds for complaint - did she complain? Who made the decision to give him a caution? the police? the CPS? or magistrates court?

drhomes - was it a traffic car that issued the ticket?

catladycourtney1 · 07/02/2013 19:48

I don't understand what the police officer would have to gain by doing this. It's not like the money goes into his pocket. It's just a lot of unnecessary paperwork, it wouldn't make sense for an officer who was in a bad mood or whatever to make more work for himself for no good reason.

Theicingontop · 07/02/2013 19:49

Yabu.

Saying that, I have my own reasons not to trust the police. I'm wary. I wouldn't say I hate them, because that's a bit like saying you met an Irishman who was a prick, and now you hate the Irish.

Seenenoughtoknow · 07/02/2013 19:52

Vicar - I don't know...my friend wouldn't go to court because she was so scared of him and she knew one of his his best mates was one of the officers dealing with the case (which was why he played football for the team).

All we know is very little came of it...I think he had to go to an anger management course. Seriously, those of us who are not police officers don't know the ins and outs of the 'sections'...my friend struggled to make any sense of the whole thing, and no one told her she could appeal. She was in no fit state to anyway...the whole thing broke her. Was quite a frightening time for me too as I made her go to the police in the first place and I had her ex giving me menacing looks anywhere I saw him for a while after.

All I am saying is that she was not protected by our local police, and had we have lived somewhere else the outcome would have been quite different.

Seenenoughtoknow · 07/02/2013 19:53

Vicar - I mean that the case went ahead but she wouldn't attend because of her fear of him.

scurryfunge · 07/02/2013 19:55

OP, you need to suggest to your boyfriend that he needs to clip the seatbelt into the clasp and sit over the whole belt to avoid those annoying bleeps.

ShakeWellBeforeOpening · 07/02/2013 19:56

All van drivers are tossers - (enough generalisation and ignorance there for you OP ?

Just as I am typing this the news is reporting the trial of the man who murdered the two female police officers last year - go on hating there why dont you OP !

BigPantyGirl · 07/02/2013 19:57

YANBU I agree with you, in this situation the police have been total wankers. I hope your BF manages to get the charge overturned.
The filthy corrupt arseholes manhandled my partner before Xmas for no reason - other than someone else nearby was causing a kerfuffle! They hit him round the head twice and were shoving him around. Scumbags. He's the most gentle quiet bloke ever - they make me sick. Fuckers!!! And I'm related to two police officers and they're total lying twats too.

ShakeWellBeforeOpening · 07/02/2013 19:59

Nice ...

juneybean · 07/02/2013 19:59

Wow.

BlueyDragon · 07/02/2013 19:59

Police are "bullies on a power trip".

HollyBerryBush · 07/02/2013 20:01

TBH qith you OP, I'm no advocate of the police these days. I say that as being brought up in an entirely police personnel family.

Frankly, their selection process is shot to bits, I do seriously wonder exactly where they get them from. I say that in a parental capacity, a work capacity and again in 'victim' capacity.

ChestyNut · 07/02/2013 20:02

Here.

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