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To hate the police?

268 replies

DrHolmes · 07/02/2013 17:32

BF was pulled over by an unmarked police car today. He got out of his van and was told he was not wearing his seatbelt and they issued him with a £60 ticket. I came home from work and he told me the story and told me he was wearing it. He has a beeper that goes off every few seconds if he doesnt have it on and no one would drive about listening to that. I know he is telling the truth. If we appeal it then we put our case forward and then goes to court but if the fiscal find the police in favour we will have a higher fine. But i do not want him to pay the fine because that is letting them away with this. Corrupt filth. Not sure what to do :/

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frustratedworkingmum · 07/02/2013 18:30

They issued a ticket because they were doing their job!! The police put themselves in dangers way every day to protect the public so anyone who posts shite like this is in my book a bit of a mug.

You know, my DP got pulled by the police when he was driving his van, he had forgotten to renew his insurance by four days :( It was really frustrating as we got a big fine and points on his license which has meant that he has had to pay more for insurance for the past few years.

I did think this was unfair but there was nothing we could do, he wasn't insured, yes it was a genuine oversight on our behalf but he was still breaking the law. The policeman WAS understanding though as he COULD have impounded the van but he advised DP on how to make an appeal etc.

HE WAS JUST DOING HIS JOB no way would i say he was "bored" or "corrupt filth"

Seriously! how old are you?

catsmother · 07/02/2013 18:35

Yes Dahlen. Well said.

My 22 year old son is, apparently now, "corrupt filth". Quite literally, his life could potentially be at risk every time he goes to work. He's lost count of how many bodies - in various states of repair - he's had to pick up (from both RTAs and train incidents). But he presumably thinks that's a price worth paying in exchange for a bit of good old fashioned "corruption". My cousin is a DCI - she's been involved in bringing to justice paedophiles, rapists, murderer's etc. Stuff that would sicken you. But what really drew her to the job was the opportunity to terrorise innocent members of the public, take advantage of the power she holds and lie left right and centre. Obviously.

Talk about a sweeping stupid ignorant statement.

I'd say a large majority of the force are honest and dedicated in the face of (often) extreme pressure. And that's pressure from the situations they encounter quite aside from the swingeing cuts being imposed again and again and morale at an all time low. If the police - generally - (leaving aside the minority who do abuse their position) are failing to do their job properly it's usually not for want of trying from ordinary officers but because there are far too few officers being stretched far too far.

ManVsFoodRocks · 07/02/2013 18:37

I knew a protester once who hated the police - once said in my presence (DH was a cop) that all the 'filth' deserved to die etc. etc.

Then he went to a protest in the States, got roughed up (not severely), was put in a jail cell without being formally charged, was released 2 days later, tried to leave the country, was detained at the airport, shouted back at the police there, got roughed up again, was detained for a further couple of days, and finally came back to the UK where he now has nothing but praise for the UK police Grin

Obviously some police are a not great. Same as doctors, nurses, teachers, plumbers, stylists, dentists, farmers and poets.

OP you are most unpleasant, and not terribly bright.

StitchAteMySleep · 07/02/2013 18:38

Yabu - I have had both positive and negative dealings with the Police, you cannot judge every single officer on the actions of a few. Even my dearly departed MIL who was beaten by Police whilst heavily pregnant didn't do that.

Ilovefluffysheep · 07/02/2013 18:43

Love all the police bashing threads that come up on here!

I am one of those "corrupt filth" you like to generalise about. Of course there are some dodgy officers around as others have said, sadly it's human nature and police forces across the country are sadly going to have some officers that have got in that are less than honest.

Happily, they are very much in the minority. Despite this, they give the rest of us a bad name.

I very much doubt any officer would want to give a ticket for no reason. Traffic process = paperwork = writing up a file that takes at least a couple of hours. No officer wants to do paperwork for the sake of it, believe me. We have far too much unnecessary paperwork as it is.

Of course it couldn't possibly be that your boyfriend is not telling you the whole truth and maybe trying to save face? Love that the automatic assumption is its a dodgy cop!

JustplainoldBuggerlugs · 07/02/2013 18:44

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Flobbadobs · 07/02/2013 18:45

Wy don't you google police corruption and see what it really means? Our police force have bad officers but compared to some other countries we have the best.
Try looking up police corruption in say, Mexico. That makes fun reading...
Instead of bitching about hating the police, grow up and contest the fine like an adult instead of a whiney baby.
YABU.

Flobbadobs · 07/02/2013 18:46

Should have read:
Our police force has some bad officers.

PandaOnAPushBike · 07/02/2013 18:48

My only serious involvement with the police is when my, then undiagnosed, autistic teen went completely off the rails. The police officers who dealt with her were amazing. They didn't let her get away with anything (quite rightly so) but they could tell there was something different about her and handled her accordingly and with exceptional kindness (whereas I wanted to lock her up and throw away the key). The advice they gave me was instrumental to her getting diagnosed, supported and finally back on the straight and narrow.

JustplainoldBuggerlugs · 07/02/2013 18:51

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Seenenoughtoknow · 07/02/2013 18:59

A friend of mine was beaten up (quite badly) by her exboyfriend and he got off with a warning...not totally sure it was something to do with the fact that her exbf was the goalie for the local police footy team Hmm

Also, an exwife of an officer in the nearest large town to me said all the officers drink and drive (on nights out etc) and 'look out' for each other Shock

Flobbadobs · 07/02/2013 18:59

10storey I went to Manchester the day of one of the funerals. Totally heartbreaking Thanks

10storeylovesong · 07/02/2013 19:04

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BMW6 · 07/02/2013 19:08

Quite ridiculous OP. Thats all.

LtEveDallas · 07/02/2013 19:09

There are rotten apples in every profession. You partner may or may not be telling the truth, but to make such a sweeping statement and in the same breath to make comment on Hillsborough is truly mind boggling.

I suggest you have gone far too far here.

MrsWolowitzerables · 07/02/2013 19:11

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PandaOnAPushBike · 07/02/2013 19:12

Panda are you the Mner who made a sign for that woman driver?

As I don't have a clue what you're referring to, I think not.

ThatVikRinA22 · 07/02/2013 19:14

im getting used to these threads now - but its nice to see the majority support what we do for the most part. (yeah - im 'the filth' too.)

i hate issuing FPNs. i hate form filling actually full stop.
and files
i dont like doing files.
so on balance its unlikely that anyone enjoys it enough to give spurious tickets for fun.

seen - it matters not a jot who you are or what job you do - coppers who get caught drink driving know they risk everything - their job, reputation, livelyhood, pension, i doubt very very much that anyone would "look out" for an officer breaking the same laws they are paid to uphold. not in this day and age anyway. Also your pals boyfriend may have got a warning because they police followed due process - you cannot lock someone up and throw away the key for a first offence - when you say beaten up i would be interested to know what section assualt he was cautioned for....a caution by the way is still held on record. its not getting away scott free.

there are lots and lots of misconceptions about the police out there but thankfully most people understand we are there to help them, even if that means giving them a ticket for a seatbelt if it saves us scraping them up off the road later....

Seenenoughtoknow · 07/02/2013 19:14

I was a witness and the police dumbed down the evidence like nothing I've ever seen before - when my statement was read back to me in the police station it was very unlike I had said it, and when I told the officer that, he wrote 'the witness is changing her statement and now says...' And when I questioned that he said it was 'procedure'...I stopped arguing at that point but knew the outcome wouldn't be a good one for my friend.

And yes an ex but not a bitter one. She was telling it as a matter of fact story to a group of us friends and we were all Shock

I'm sure the police are not this way everywhere - just relaying my experiences. If I had any good ones I would relay them too, but that is all I have.

KeepingCalmAndPostingNicely · 07/02/2013 19:15

All the serving Police Officers here - truly, ignore this piffle. This is a cracking example of a goady thread. The base story is so weak it's almost laughable.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM · 07/02/2013 19:16

yes, OP, Police - utter bastards.

Totally unfair on your darling partner (sounds like he's taking the piss quite frankly to avoid getting a bollocking from you)

Shame they get so arsey with motorists not wearing seatbelts. It's not like they have to attend RTC's with non-seat belt wearers hanging dead through the windscreen.....oh wait.

FellatioNels0n · 07/02/2013 19:16

Don't you write your own statements? Confused

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