sick of this country, what countries provide a better life for people that live there

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i'm sick of all these cuts backs, and lies from the goverment

so sick of it i'm actually thinking for the first time, i might perher to bugger off and live elsewhere

dh thinks dubai would be a good bet, but i think as a married woman, it's wouldnt be my first choice

so where would be a good bet

Excellent post CloudsAndTrees.

People have it easy on benefits in this country. They are generous to the point that they have nearly bankrupted us. The so called 'cuts' are tiny compared with those happening over the rest of Europe.

Tax rates are reasonable for those who choose to work and contribute.

The NHS is great. It is not being dismantled. It provides a high level of service and the envy of the world.

However, I think you should go OP as you clearly arent happy. And if you could take some of the whining delusional MN socialists with you as you leave then that would be just peachy.

"the envy of the world" is a bit of a hyperbole though. I love the Nhs, but for many conditions the UK has worse rates than the rest of Europe.

Maybe not for long, given the cuts performed here (europe).

"Welfare safety net

Well for the moment.... for what its worth. Sadly the Tories seem intent on destroying it, cutting too much and too quickly all under the excuse "oh we have to""

Seriously? The cuts are teeny weeny compared to the rest of the world but please, do us all a favour and go where you feel you will get more for doing nothing

what would an illegal immigrant do for health care in the UK? Can people in that situation access the NHS without any paperwork?

I personally am just putting my head down and counting down the days until the next election.Lets face it no way on earth are the Tories going to be back in power.

Agree with bits and bots of several posts however the NHS is in the shit and Canada is uber boring.

Have you ever been asked for paperwork when turning up at A&E? No one checks anything.

Illegal immigrants get treated all the time. The NHS loses a fortune in treating people who theoretically are not entitled to treatment. Linky

I love the fact peopel think they can just emigrate - most other countries are a damned site more selective than we are in admitting people - now then OP, where do you think you have the skills, the finance, and the eligability to go to?

just wondering because I have a friend who is a doctor in another EU country and she treats illegal immigrants outside her ordinary working hours and all the medicine is only what they can organise via charity. Lots of pregnant women, an awful lot of dc, many people who don't come until they are desperately sick. Some countries provide more efficient health care for insured residents but there are so many that fall by the wayside. Hard to get the perfect system.

I just want to agree with Iteotwawki's post about NZ and moving for positive reasons. So many great things but not free (spent NZ$35 to have my son checked over by the nurse after a quad bike accident yesterday).

Until we arrived I had not realised that NZ has a high suicide rate for young men (I have 3 boys) and high levels (comparatively) of domestic violence.

I loved living in London and I love living here.

Denmark is heaven. The taxes are the same as the UK (our stealth taxes see to that), the schools are lovely, fantastic culture and you can walk down the pavement in Copenhagen without being trodden on by the rest of the local population.

The health service is free and works. The benefit system is better than the UK and works. There's v low unemployment.

The values are better than those in the UK; less state corruption (no Danish Eton to beget trouble), and a strong socialist focus on fairness, common sense, decency and self-improvement.

When I had been to Copenhagen a few times I finally asked my DB (lives there) Where are the slums? Where are the city's destitute? He looked at me as if I was nuts and said There Aren't Any.

Independent Scotland? That will be bankrupt Scotland then.
Already the highest levels of teen pregnancy, heart disease and tooth decay in the EU. High percentage of poor literacy in school leavers.yes, university tuition fees are paid, but students loan agency SAAS currently under review for failure rates in dealing with applications.high alcohol dependency rates. Cold and wet in winter, cold and wet in summer but with added midges.

Determinedma* what happened to the Scots education system - it used to be the best in the world, far over and above England

What staggers me is how, if Britain is compared to other countries, it's always states like Taliban-dominated Afghanistan circa 1995, coke-fuelled Guatemala in the 70s, or a nation with zero GDP where war has just broken out following a drought.

Not, you know, comparable nations like the rest of Europe, the West, or even, Lord save us, a new African or South American state that is making money and thriving.

Can the only leverage the UK can get in a competition for best country really be from the world's most violent troublespots, most repressive regimes, and most notorious poverty? Or would comparing GB with its peers be a little too close for comfort?

Canada, Scotland, scandinavia are the places I would choose - no experience though - except of Scotland which I love.

The Uk is so much more tolerant than most of Europe. The cities are clean and there is much less unemployment. If this wasn't true then why are there so many French, Swedish, Spanish, Danish etc people living here? My Swedish friends would much rather live and work in London where they are taxed less and people are more tolerant.

holly I don't know.'I have 3 Dcs who have either been through it or are going through it. I'm not impressed.At times I have been appalled at what is considered acceptable.

Other than Canada, because i have a lot of family over there, I wouldnt want to live anywhere else but the UK, preferably London. Why would anyone want to go overseas, other than short visits?

cant fathom it myself.

in my case, maybe because that is the way I was brought up, so it feels perfectly natural for people to move somewhere and live there for 2, 5 , 10 years or even permanently. I don't feel rooted in quite the same way I suppose as people who were brought up in one place. My sister and brother seem to feel the same.

Some people just like the adventure of it I think.

redbobble - What kind of finance does your DH do? Commercial? Investment banking? Private banking?

If he is in private banking, I would recommend looking into Monaco. Right on the Mediterranean Sea. Perfect weather, lots of work for private bankers, free schooling, safe & fun. 15 min drive from Italy, 20 min from Nice, 45 min from Cannes, and 1.5 hours from St Tropez.

Considering my ds had to have (estimated) about £750,000 worth of treatment on the NHS I am bloody glad to live here. I know people in the US who are having to do charity drive after charity drive to get their child the operation my son had at 3 months that saved his life and I know people from China, India, middle East who are struggling to get their children into either GOSH or CHOP (in Philadelphia) as there are few hospitals that deal with rare conditions.

I'm lucky because I do have a good job and am financially stable but there are many amazing things about this country and I am proud to be British.

"I personally am just putting my head down and counting down the days until the next election.Lets face it no way on earth are the Tories going to be back in power."

The Tories will be back in power. Dont take MN as representative of the real world because it just isnt. We are mid term and the Labour lead is pathetic.

I am looking forward to the wailing on here in 2015.

Denmark is supposed to be a nice spot, but I don't imagine the OP is fluent in Danish. She may also not like the weather or the prices. BTW what are the UK 'stealth taxes'?

I've spent a lot of time in NZ - plenty of upsides. Downsides: murderous road death toll (despite the same space as the UK and only four million people, they kill each other with cars at a massive rate), big social problems, freezing houses, long way from anywhere in both space and time, high prices, short history, not that cultural. Oh, and earthquakes.

watch the news, and think of all the places you can be glad that you weren't born. While our generous benefits system does attract a lot of the people who are always trying to get into the UK, I don't think it is just that. I know a lot of them don't find it as good as they hoped - but it is still a lot better than many of the places that they come from.

anyone who says it is cold all the time in the UK clearly spends too much time indoors.

anyway OP, you can go anywhere in the EU at the drop of the hat, so let us know how you get on.

Corygal, I am very , Norway sounds very nice.
Scotland is lovely and the people are tops.

I think, wherever you are in the world if you have a needed skill or are independantly wealthy, life is good.

For me home is where the heart is, I,d only go if all my mad family came with me..

Corygal - No poverty in Denmark? cphpost.dk/news/national/poverty-rising-eurostat-figures-show

Racism also appears to be a problem: cphvoice.ning.com/profiles/blogs/racism-and-discrimination