sick of this country, what countries provide a better life for people that live there

[redbobblehat]

i'm sick of all these cuts backs, and lies from the goverment

so sick of it i'm actually thinking for the first time, i might perher to bugger off and live elsewhere

dh thinks dubai would be a good bet, but i think as a married woman, it's wouldnt be my first choice

so where would be a good bet

[redbobblehat]

i certainly do think theres anywhere where politians do not lie, but i think ther must be other places where things are better than they are here

[stargirl1701]

Sweden? Eye watering taxes though

[theodorakisses]

I am also an ME expat, just saying that there are some monsters out there and they are often British. In reality, most of us are normal decent people seeking a better life and treating people with a lot more care than when we lived in the Uk and ignored problems. I spend a lot of time volunteering with the Filipina group, providing clothes and school equipment to send to an ACTUAL corrupt and dangerous country. I work with people of all nationalities and know where countries are on a map and know, from the people who come from there what it is like. The only reason the champagne socialists don't diss the realy shitty, caste or rascist nations where people actually DO starve to death is because they are filthy poor piss holes that an expat would never deign to visit except on a Sandals holiday. FFs, corrupt government? Ever had to bribe a policeman to get medicine for your child? ever been held at gunpoint trying to buy food? No idea.

[Bobbybird40]

Short days in Sweden. Hi suicide rate.

[ivykaty44]

what about Japan?

[theodorakisses]

Red, there are international laws in place where both parents have to get a UK family court ruling to decide if they (the kids) can enter the country. However, if you marry a local, you may find it to be different. In most cases, why would you do that?

[theodorakisses]

Singapore or Malaysia but they are desperately boring and miles away.

[GrendelsMum]

Would it be limited by where you can both find jobs? If so, maybe you should start looking at the countries your skills are in potential demand, or where you can arrange job transfers? Or perhaps you could agree to move to Dubai for a certain time period and then re-consider?

[Mosman]

Japan is very expensive I believe

[theodorakisses]

I am a highish level boss. My boss is a woman, her boss is a woman and then above her the MD is a man. yes, we feel extremely second class. It is pathetic ignorance like that that makes the UK such an arrogant, smug and sad place.

[redbobblehat]

suppose i was thinking a bit closer to home, france or germany but i don't know alot about how things really are there.
somewhere a bit warmer would be nice

i wouldnt really fancy japan to live for some reason, perhaps too much of a culture shock for us

oz sounds very appealing

[ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath]

Jinsei, where was the last place you lived?

[redbobblehat]

we have seen many job adverts in one of dhs journals advertising very well paid job in his area of work, last one he showed me was 120k per year

[theodorakisses]

Australia was a tedious posting, lots of racists and spiders. Just my opinion.

[ivykaty44]

Mosman - yes Japan is more expensive - though not that much more than the uk now - but they don't have the cuts. Op wants somewhere to live without cuts, so that may well mean more expense

[Gauri]

Switzerland. My perfect place. The land of beauty, banking and cuckoo clocks!

No where is perfect op. you have to vote out the idiots that run the UK.

[Booyhoo]

thedorakisses are you the poster who was on here a while back claiming to be high up in one of the big oil companies?

[ivykaty44]

Oz is coming up for a general election in the autumn and so you may be face with another Tory gov - so that not a good place to go.

[redbobblehat]

theo, i'm the first to admit i don't really know what its actually like to live anywher other than the uk, i've only been to dubai on holiday so its totally different

i only really know the rest from what i read.
i thought i read nt long ago woman can still be stoned there, so ive no idea if its true or not

[redbobblehat]

switerland sounds appealing

skiing in winter beautiful courtyside in summer

yes i like the thpught of that

[NonnoMum]

Interesting thread.

Could people give names of countries and pros and cons?

i.e Germany - very cultured, well-educated, efficient (obvs??) but language difficulties

• some of the Caribbean islands - expensive, very pleasant (could give more details), dodgy areas.

[mercibucket]

what are your jobs and skills and what do you like in life?

tbh i'd leave if it weren't for the kids, but it's not for us right now.

[ILoveTIFFANY]

Op it's all ' I thought I read' or ' I heard'.... Why don't you look into it yourself?

And what kind of job/work do you do?

[JustGiveMeFiveMinutes]

I thought the UN had severely critisised the UAE for it's poor record on worker's rights? There was talk of sub-human working conditions, poor pay, non-existent holidays and confiscated passports. Basically the allegation was that Dubai was built on the back of slave labour. Is that not true?

[Charliefox]

Isle of man. Low taxes and you can see where those taxes are being spent. Low crime rate and beautiful scenery. And just a short hop, skip and a jump from the mainland.