sick of this country, what countries provide a better life for people that live there

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i'm sick of all these cuts backs, and lies from the goverment

so sick of it i'm actually thinking for the first time, i might perher to bugger off and live elsewhere

dh thinks dubai would be a good bet, but i think as a married woman, it's wouldnt be my first choice

so where would be a good bet

a nice sandy beach in the sun is my idea of heaven

dh is in finance and im a sahm atm

theodora you sound interesting. What 'serious' conversation are you wanting?

a quite basic lifestyle suits me fine, a little house on the beach would be bliss

We have friends in Dubai and they love it. We have visited and enjoyed it but it seemed like a weird utopia. Unreal.

I suppose its when the chips are down then you appreciate free education, welfare, healthcare and the safety benefit net.

Op we are lucky to live here, much worse places, just crap weather.

I always fancied Germany and I have No idea why.

Have you lived in lots of places Theodora I would have loved to ha e done that but never managed to leave Wales. Which is soggy but I am very fond of.

I don't know, was it my user name? I am nothing special believe me, I just get irritated with people making judgements on places they have never been to. It is so easy to slag off places because of what you have read in the daily Mail or Guardian but, the places that don't get reported are far worse. I honestly believe that the gap between UK expats and residents is impossible to explain, we are meant to be British but we don't really fit in so in some ways we are nomads.

theo, i have been to dubai, but you can't tell what things are really like from a holiday

I'd go to Denmark - I admit that my love of Borgen is a factor in this and have no real basis other than a TV show to sway my decision

And actually, all I was objecting to was the ridiculous statement that Dubai is full of starving people on the streets. I don't want a fight. if anyone actually wanted to know what life is like where I live they can PM me and I can help them.

you dont know id you are high up in one of the big oil companies?

I can't believe someone described the UK as "blatantly corrupt". It really isn't. There is not widespread corruption in the public sector. Politicians were fairly and democratically voted in. There is very little bribery. Campaign finance is pretty transparent.

I do not at all agree with what the Tories are doing. But I would never suggest they are doing it for corrupt reasons.

I live in Qatar, it is 55 minute flight, we go there once a month to buy stuff. hardly an all inclusive once a year holiday.

Pickled, our best holidays with the kids were in saundersfoot,, rainy yes but can't beat Folly Farm and Oakwood and now kids older could all do the cozy pubs together..

I agree theo, obviously if you haven't been to a country you can't really judge! Lot of stupid myths out there.

Stop goading. I am saying, if I have said that before and it was my user name then, yes I said it. I am on here quite a lot, things come up, maybe I did. Why the attack? Weird.

Another vote for a newly independent Scotland...

Low population density, beautiful scenery, skiing in winter, no language issues unless you move to Glasgow or dundee, Scottish NHs, great education system, free university, and a population with in general more socialist leanings than rUK.

Hahaha. We have it wonderful in the UK compared to other countries. Some people don't realise how lucky we are.

oh scotland sounds very appealing indeed, bit chilly perhaps

not attacking at all! jeez, relax. i asked if you were that person, you replied that you dont know. i thought it was odd that you didn't know whether you have claimed to work high up for one of the big oil companies. it seems like something you might remember saying.

do you work high up in one of the big oil companies?

People would do anything, and frequently do to live in the UK. I agree that, obviously corruption isn't a great way to describe things. real corruption kills people.

Canada is really wonderful (but yes, it is cold). Depends on your priorities.
I live in London btw and have no plans to move.

DH used to live in Germany, and has family there. He still works in Germany some of the time.

We think the public transport is excellent, but you should hear his aunt complain about the delays and the lack of air conditioning in summer! Plus generally it's very nice, clean, tidy, I like the architecture, I like the food, I like going walking, I think it's quite good value to visit in terms of eating out, I love the culture in the south of going out on a Sunday to have a piece of cake or a ice cream. And apparently street sausage vendors are highly regulated and so the sausages are of excellent quality...

Downsides - it would obviously help if you spoke German. DH is fluent, but I just stand next to him nodding and smiling. It also helps if you have something to talk about in the office to your colleagues - i.e. are watching German TV and films and reading German books and newspapers.

Apparently people in Munich can be really self-righteous and up themselves.

booyo - i remember the thread, an expat in singapore, stranger slapped her baby in a shop? theodora's posts had me hooked. i'm not sure how it got from a discussion about OP's slapped baby to a discussion of her high-falutin job in HR for an oil company? impressive threadjacking ...

theodora the gaps between British expats and local residents is really artificial. I think it is self made ( i.e the expats live in their own little bubble of smugness). Yes, the expats are richer than most locals but there are locals even richer in most of these countries now.

No, I am a middle manager. As a Westerner I would never get any higher than I am and am already training a local to do my job. Then I am out of a job. Hardly businesswoman of the year.

provide? provide?
find somewhere, something-for-nothing-lover, and move.