To refuse to take 3 points on my licence for speeding when I wasn't the driver

[hmc]

....because that's called perverting the course of justice and if found out it attracts a custodial sentence

I have a clean licence. They have a lot of points and need to drive for their job

Don't take the points for him, he's an idiot.
I've been driving 30 years and never had a ticket for speeding or parking, the only one I ever got was for going through the wrong lane to pay a bridge Toll in San Francisco, and I'll say not my fault, they had completely changed how it's done since the last time I went through, the picture they took must have been me with money in my hand sticking out the window, wondering where the toll collector was and a look of WTF on my face!

Fortunately for you I am simultaneously writing an assignment so don't have time to give you a through mauling for your last post

it's not a big deal and people do it all the time

Is that the message you give your children in terms of observing the law?

If he is unobservant enough to be caught speeding three times ...

He's been caught 4 times in the last 3 years, Snorbs.

2 x speeding already on his licence.
1 x speeding resulting in bad driver course.
1 x speeding he's trying to get OP to shoulder.

Also, I thought that when a car owner responded that they weren't the driver at the time of the offence, the photos were checked to try to identify the driver if possible and catch anyone committing perjury (as it's not uncommon)?

Are you serious, Laurie? Your dh sometimes breaks the speed limit because he's just dozy in the mornings????
That's what points on your licence are for. To ultimately get dangerous drivers off the road.

i agree with SoftKittyWarmKitty.

He is a repeat offender of speeding, and i for 1 don't want reckless drivers on the road.

No, he got points once from an unreasonably positioned camera - but I can imagine he's more likely to speed on quiet roads at 6.30 am.

It's a total myth that 'Speed Kills'. Bad driving kills, not speed. Which is why they will put it up to 80 on motorways - it will have no effect on deaths.

You might expect that already having 6 points on his lcence would help him focus on his speed, tbh.

Do you think he maybe ought to get a smaller engined car since he can't keep this one under control, hmc?

Laurie- surely it follows that drivers who knowingly drive over the speed limit are bad drivers?

They are deliberately ignoring the rules that re there for the safety and wellbeing of all road users.

Sure, deliberately and wilfully ignoring them makes you a twat and a bad driver.

Accidentally going over occasionally, not so much. It's a mistake, people make mistakes every day.

WARNING: sometimes when they send you the question asking "Who was driving", they [b]already know[/b].

Likewise, when the police pull you over and ask "who owns this car", "is it insured" etc, they [b]already know[/b].

Lie at your peril!

Oops, not used to the MN method of bold here, automatically doing tags as for other forums!

I agree with SoftKitty. Hard to see what's unkind about hoping a lawbreaker gets caught and taken away from where they're doing harm.

Just transpose SoftKitty's wish to any other crime. Sounds reasonable to me.

OP's response to SoftKitty bang out of order.

So the dual carriageway was not a 40 or 50 mph then? Unlucky to get caught doing 79 but he'll just have to take the points and spend the next few years actually driving to the speed limit or below. It might focus his mind a bit!

You need 12 points within 3 years to lose your license so if 3 of his points are coming off in march he should be ok.

The fact that he's a total douchebag is another matter.

It's a total myth that 'Speed Kills'
No, its not. Its the laws of physics.

voice Isn't it obvious? OP isn't doing the typing any more; it's the entitled dick she has for a husband.

I sometimes speed. I never do in slower areas - that's where children and other people walk. I do a bit on motorways, but if I got points, I'd be a bigger man than HMC's new typist.

...though to be sure, it depends where you are and what you hit - hence 30 limits where there are likely to be pedestrians is important. If a dozy driver at 6:30 hits the paper boy, he will be more likely to cause worse injury or death if he's speeding simply because energy is proportional to speed squared.

No Laurie, speed kills.

In the same way, falling off a tower block tends to be more fatal than falling from a chair.

I get what softkitty is saying but that would mean he would be jobless and op and her dcs would all be suffering for his mistakes, so not nice for OP to hear.
As a slight aside would they really allocate scant resources to sending out letters asking who was driving when they know who was just to catch people out? Is that not entrapment or something? < no sarcasm here, genuinely wondering

Anyway, OP - the way to be a supportive wife is to help your H find some technology to help him stick to the limits. My satnav gives warnings of fixed cameras, and accurate speed which I find easier to keep an eye on than the car speedo.

he would be jobless
I'm pretty sure the OP said that wouldn't be the case - so long as he doesn't break the limit yet again.

She did indeed, I was talking about what softkitty said- hoping he gets banned.