to cancel father christmas for my youngest

[loverofwine]

He is still awake. We have tried everything including saying that we'll text FC and tell him to avoid DS4.

Should we?

At wits end

loverofwine I'm glad you've seen sense! Now enjoy the and have a very merry Christmas!

(About following through on punishments, a crucial part is that the punishment needs to fit the crime. Can be hard to get right in the hear of the moment! But to follow through on a disproportionately harsh punishment could be more damaging than not following through. But anyway, one to think about in the new year. For now, it's Christmas and that's all that matters!)

Can't you see how mean it would be OP to do that?

We don't say YABU for the fun of it. I genuinely think it's a horrible thing to do when your DC is awake at 10pm on Xmas eve!!!

Well I hope you think more than twice before you make threats to your dc's again! Never make a threat you are not prepared to carry out - golden rule of parenting.

Posting the question wasnt the problem and you know it.

What you were planning on doing is plain cuntish.
Poor kid.

Merry fucking Christmas.

Love take it on the chin, it did read as mean but I can see where you were coming from.

All small ones are now asleep and presents ready.

We all work hard all year to make this happen, let it be a good one.

He will not remember this in the morning so bright face and enjoy x

Happy Christmas!

The fact you think asking the question here is what you did wrong, and not what you said to your poor DC shows that you just don't get it.

Ouch oh

Bloody hell if we can't vent here!

My 12 year old has been singing songs to the bathroom tap and pretending to be a snake, and he hasn't stopped talking for at least the past 4 hours (I started another thread about it before I saw this one)... Notice I said he's twelve?! Your DS is a tiny tot: of course he's excited. Of course he gets his stocking. And no potatoes!

BTW, that thing about 'always following through' means that you have to stop yourself from making unreasonable threats, NOT that you have to be horrible even if you know you were over-reacting.

Pour yourself a night-cap and have a merry Christmas!

Bluelights,

venting here wasn't the issue. Coming on here to vent about her DC being awake would have been perfectly normal. What she threatened to do, and planned to do, before coming on here is the issue.

Actually I think some of you are pretty judgey and cruel. Also resorting to swearing to get your point across isn't clever.

That aside I completely accept your tirades. I posted because I needed to get perspective. I got this. And some.

What exactly is cruel about what we have said, and how does it compare to what you have done to your own child?

So would no-one remove any presents from their DC's stocking however badly behaved they've been? Mine has been a nightmare today and there was talk of removing one present from stocking (will still have others). AIBU?

I suppose it is a bit unusual not to know it'd be wrong, to even be wondering out loud whether it'd be OK to do that.

It seems pretty plain to everyone else.

Even if you were the most wound up you'd ever been in your life, you'd still know it would have long lasting effects.

I think so Snazzy. Kids get excited at Christmas. It's just what happens. Any behaviour that's related to excitement gets over-looked for one night, IMO.

Is he asleep yet?

OP said he was about half hour ago Echo.

We're cruel?!
Try to remember yourself as a 3yr old and how you would feel if your parents said there will be no Christmas because you are still awake. Haven't you had nights where you can't sleep? Would you rather have a bit of sympathy or your DH tell you to snap out of it and just go to sleep?

I wouldn't take toys/presents away from my dc's because of their behaviour unless it was a clear consequence that they understood, and only after a very clear warning. Even then I still wouldn't remove presents.

At 3.5 it will be the first Christmas he will remember long term. If you were to put potatoes in his stocking or not give him his presents from FC he will remember it forever. Hopefully now he is asleep you will get a grip and reflect on how utterly spiteful your threat was.

Have persuaded DH to relent on present removal

But she won't bisjo, she'd rather whine and bitch about how meeeaannnnn we're being.

When asleep FC will visit. If the kids don't go to sleep at all he won't visit and that's that. Simples

Though I do think the OP has got a rough ride here. Bit of Christmas spirit on everyone else's part, eh? Otherwise you're as bad as you're saying she is, if you follow.

I get the logic Snazzyfeelingfestive, but telling a fully grown woman what a cunt she is being is not as bad as being a cunt to an innocent excited child.