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Toddlers shouldn't be in Asda at 12:45am?!

80 replies

OrangeLily · 24/12/2012 01:01

Due to a DH accidentally damaging part of a family members Christmas present I had to nip out to Asda past midnight and I was pretty shocked to see two different women with toddlers doing a huge shop.

Now I realise that due to shift work this might be the only time the parent has to go shop but these weren't babies asleep in buggies in PJs or a sleep suit these were very awake bubs. All local accents, etc so not jet lagged kids I'd assume.

AIBU??

OP posts:
MerryCouthyMows · 24/12/2012 09:06

Exactly, Millais!

HECTheHallsWithRowsAndFolly · 24/12/2012 09:08

Asda have apparently cocked up this year. There was a thread about it. A mner had her shopping cancelled. Others said this had also happened to them.

If your shopping gets cancelled at the eleventh hour and you have no food in and no childcare, it's possible you might take your kids down to asda with you.

VisualiseAHorse · 24/12/2012 09:08

Plenty of toddlers don't sleep well at night. What's the difference between them screaming the house down at midnight, and being taken shopping at midnight?

I admit, it's not good for their sleep patterns, but it's Christmas, does it really matter?

McChristmasPants2012 · 24/12/2012 10:15

when DS was a baby we was always in the supermarkets past midnight. That way i could have a sleep once DH came home

littleducks · 24/12/2012 10:41

I like my children asleep around 7pm to wake around 7 am, works for me.

However I dont think its the only way. I hated my neighbours kids being awake and running around at 12/1 am (flat above us). However they went to the same school as my kids and I can assure you they were happy settled children who acheived well in school, it wasnt a chaotic lifestyle, they just had afternoon naps and long lie ins at weekends. (We moved and will never live with somebody above us again!)

Lots of cultures don't do the very English 7-7 sleeping thing and the children fare just fine. I was in the park at 6.45/7am when I had toddlers that didnt sleep well, if the kids were awake anyway it makes sense to pop out, otherwise when they want to nap you will be out and they will be overtired.

Even if my kids were good sleepers if my online shopping order was cancelled at late notice I might go shopping and wake the kids if nobody else could watch them.

jinglebellyalltheway · 24/12/2012 10:49

YABU

in other countries toddlers siesta during the day and stay up well into the evening with adults, mum friends I've had from other countries often don't do 7pm bed times! I work for the NHS and a lot of the foreign nurses get picked up from late shifts by their partners with their toddlers in the car. When you go on holiday to europe parents aren't housebound from 7pm like we are, whole families go out into the villages and eat together in the evening!

its not abnormal for kids to be seen after 7pm! just a bit unusual in England but world wide it's quite normal!

BerryChristmas · 24/12/2012 10:55

OP - you are unreasonable to use the word 'bubs@ (yuck yuck yuck).

And, judging by all the people who are on here constantly saying that their children don't sleep, what's the problem?

IneedAsockamnesty · 24/12/2012 11:01

Still curious about the cucumber

nickelbabylyinginamanger · 24/12/2012 11:06

ah, DD (aged 1) will be in church at that time tonight.
we can't leave her at home, and neither of us can stay home with her, so she'll be coming along.
probably being very loud and shouty and getting confused of the time because it's normally a lot earlier when she's in church.

halcyondays · 24/12/2012 11:09

Yabu, it won't kill them and I don't up pose they go to Asda at 12.45every day of the year.

OrangeLily · 24/12/2012 11:10

I like that word thanks. Bubs Bubs Bubs.

Plus I don't like in England! Thanks for the assumption though. Hmm

I've already stated a change in heart much further up thread!

OP posts:
DesperatelySeekingSedatives · 24/12/2012 11:10

YABU normal rules dont apply as of yesterday Xmas Grin

DS is 18 months old and I'd take him at time if I needed to. 5 year old DD not so much but she isnt as portable as the little one!

It's christmas, lighten up! Xmas Smile

Birdsgottafly · 24/12/2012 11:11

"But why go shopping at that time"

I have always worked shifts, including nights, first in healthcare and then in social care, not everyone keeps 9-5 hours, or are in a time routine.

My children were all flexable and i easily changed their sleeping patterns when needed, they are now 27, 17 and 15, my two eldest work in social care jobs who's hours can be anytime 24/7.

Our essential services would shut down, or be staffed as they once were, by men and single women, if everyone held such fixed views.

trapclap · 24/12/2012 11:13

Local accents so presume not jet lagged???

SoWhatIfImWorkingClass · 24/12/2012 11:20

We contemplated doing this last night/ early hours of this morning as MIL was going and it was an opportunity for us to do our shopping without having to pay for transport etc.. But we chose not to as we couldn't be bothered basically.

Had we chosen to and DS was awake, I wouldn't have been noticed anyone judging me for it and I wouldn't judge anyone else for it as its none of each other's business really.

At the end of the day it's most likely a one off so it's not detrimental to the child or their sleep routine.

montage · 24/12/2012 11:21

"It's Christmas! Who gives a fuck?"

Well quite frankly AgentZigzag that's an unacceptable reaction. AIBU would collapse over Christmas if all of us adopt that kind of non-judgemental, tolerant, peace-and goodwill-to-all-men shoddy attitude!

MagicHouse · 24/12/2012 14:32

Sounds like a great idea if you have no-one to take care of your toddler while you Christmas shop. Fighting the hoards with a toddler to buy Christmas dinner would be no-one's first choice. It was horrific enough going just me at half nine on Sunday before the tills opened. But I'm lucky in that I have the option of shopping without my two year old somethimes. If I didn't, and he was ok with midnight shopping I'd be up for that!

EverythingsNotRosie · 24/12/2012 16:23

Wish I had realised M&S was open at midnight last night instead of sitting in the living room at MIL's house while toddler refused to sleep for two hours!

fairylightsandtinsel · 24/12/2012 16:40

I got a cat's bum mouth from some woman this morning when I had my 3 year old DS in tescos at 7.45. He'd been up for two hours at this point! She made some comment about him being fed up (because he took a brief break from bellowing "Jingle Bells" to ask if he could get out of the trolley) and "no wonder, being in the shops at this time of the morning". I did a Xmas Hmm face at her and said it was pretty-much mid-morning for him! OP, presumably the person you saw would have had to take the kid to the shop at some point, better when its quiet than in the pre-xmas hell!

FrameyMcFrame · 24/12/2012 16:49

Perhaps the kids had just recovered from norovirus and their sleep patterns disturbed?
Perhaps they had just come home from visiting relatives in Australia with jet lag
Perhaps they have more interesting lives than you imagine...

SoWhatIfImWorkingClass · 24/12/2012 16:49

Seriously though, why do strangers think they have the right to pipe up about others, particularly when it comes to parenting?

Apparently my 2 year old son shouldn't be in a buggy because he looks 4 :/ that's according to some woman on the bus lol.

everlong · 24/12/2012 16:54

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MagicHouse · 24/12/2012 17:03

I got a cat's bum mouth from some woman this morning when I had my 3 year old DS in tescos at 7.45. He'd been up for two hours at this point! She made some comment about him being fed up (because he took a brief break from bellowing "Jingle Bells" to ask if he could get out of the trolley) and "no wonder, being in the shops at this time of the morning".

Haha! 7.45 is practically mid-afternoon for us! Strange woman! (and very rude too!)

SoWhatIfImWorkingClass · 24/12/2012 17:29

Everlong, not it isn't and that's the point. It was most likely a one off :)

SoWhatIfImWorkingClass · 24/12/2012 17:31

*no it isn't. Excuse my spelling mistake.