6mo at Christmas meal Update

[ForbiddenFruitt]

For any of you who is interested.

Baby cried practically from the moment he arrived, until he fell asleep while the mother was holding him, therefore she could only eat with one hand.
Live music starts and its too loud for him, so hes grumpy and crying most of the night. He was obviously tired from the beginning, yawning and rubbing his eyes.
Mother finishes her dessert and leaves.

Had an ok night, but not the good night I was hoping for.

My opinion is still very much that it is not an appropriate place for a 6mo.

Oh and minesapintofwine heres a grip, hold on to it.

I am not debating this subject again. It was done to absolute death in the previous thread. People asked for an update and they got one.

If you did not read the original thread then you would not understand the circumstances.

She was on judge because her baby wouldn't settle and we had a food mix up which made the meal last an extra 40 minutes. It had nothing to do with me.

As soon as I saw my friend I hugged her and gave her a present for the baby. Sat down and I held him for a while so she could look over the menu and enjoy her drink.
Got up at least three times to fetch something from the pushchair for her so she wouldn't have to stand up.
Offered again to hold him as I had finished my dinner and she was trying to eat with one hand.
Asked her about her plans for his first Christmas and for the christening.

But yes the baby was obviously tired. There was live music (loud enough that we had to shot across the table to be heard), it woke him up and he was unsettled. He kept yawning and rubbing his eyes, a very obvious sign that he needed to sleep. My friend even said that he is an extremely light sleeper. It was late and there was also the drive home to consider.

I have never said that babies are not allowed in restaurants ever. But you have to consider the situation and circumstances and realise that yes sometimes it is not appropriate to have your baby there.

*She was on edge because her baby wouldn't settle.

Leave it Forbidden.
There's clearly two camps on this, and I'm with yours.
If other mums want to take their babies to a Christmas piss up, then more fool them.
And from the first thread, which went to 1000 posts the vast majority agreed with you.
Don't bother arguing any more, and have a lovely Christmas

If there was mistletoe over us right now I'd kiss you Lady

Just annoys me when people comment saying what an awful and horrible friend I must be. Also slightly stressed out from wrapping about a million presents.

Have a wonderful Christmas too.

Not read the original but I wouldn't take 6 month into that environment. Don't get it myself, either have a babysitter or know the baby will be relaxed/ asleep or it's not fair on the child and everyone else that's out.

FFS!

This woman changed the goalposts by bringing a young baby to an adult night out.

OP went out of her way to help her.

How does that make her a shit friend or a horrible person?!

Do people really just not go out after they have a baby then?
Yes, they do go out. They just don't go on a night out with a baby in tow. That's what babysitters were invented for. If you don't have one, you don't go out. Not take baby out into town with you the weekend before Christmas on a night out.
No wonder baby was grizzling. Babies shouldn't be out round town/loud Christmas night restaurants at 10pm at night. Can't believe I just typed that sentence as it's common sense, but obviously still needs spelling out

Have the people saying that they'd take their baby out on the Friday night before Christmas ever actually BEEN out on that night before?! It's bloody mental. Seriously. from someone who used to be out every weekend once upon a time
You could be in the usually quietest restaurant there is, but on that night it will be HEAVING and full of pissed up people on their Christmas night out.
WTF would ANY sane person want to take their baby out on those type of nights for?!

I'm in the OPs 'camp' as well LadyB, but the way she posts just comes across as a bit...prickly?

Like this means a lot to her, more than it possibly should? (not that I'm the judge of what people should think) That it's very important for her to be right.

People who need to feel they've been proved right just make me feel uncomfortable.

It just seems more about proving the point rather than discussing when it's appropriate to leave your baby at home.

And hahahaha at 'I am not debating this subject again.' at the start of your long post forbidden Going to have to ask, why start the thread then?

Prickly? No I wouldn't say so. Shame that I've come across that way.

I really don't feel the need to be right. To be honest I wish I was wrong in this situation and a great night was had by all.

• I found out before the dinner that a family friend had died from cancer, leaving behind 4 children. It was expected but it was devastating all the same. So it was never going to be a good night. Perhaps that is one of the reasons I have come across prickly.

A lot of people asked for an update, so I thought I would do it. As in there wasn't a need to start the debate again. As Lady B stated you were in one of two camps. It's unlikely anyone would change their opinions.

Also there was a thread recently where people were complaining that no one ever updated their threads.

I just find it hurtful to be called a horrible friend. I don't judge her on her parent skills and would say she is a fantastic mum and devotes her entire life to that baby. It just seemed to me common sense that you wouldn't bring a baby to a late night meal, the weekend before Christmas, with live music player.

My camp hasn't changed either.

This was not the right time and place for a baby.

Babies should fit in with parents occasionally. This wasn't one of those times.

Sometimes you should put the fundamental needs of a young child over your need for a night out.

Minds are set and it is doubtful that anyone is going to change their minds.

You were totally right, but I am glad it sorted itself out in the end. Tanks for the update

I found the grip op:). I apologise if I overreacted its just that I did read the original thread and felt it was a bit judgy which. Is my absolute pet hate. But I understand it is only opinions hence the post in aibu,and will respect yours. Hope you and friend had a good Christmas after and have a mulled wine on me :)