6mo at Christmas meal Update

[ForbiddenFruitt]

For any of you who is interested.

Baby cried practically from the moment he arrived, until he fell asleep while the mother was holding him, therefore she could only eat with one hand.
Live music starts and its too loud for him, so hes grumpy and crying most of the night. He was obviously tired from the beginning, yawning and rubbing his eyes.
Mother finishes her dessert and leaves.

Had an ok night, but not the good night I was hoping for.

My opinion is still very much that it is not an appropriate place for a 6mo.

Suppose it just looked a bit like she was flicking her vs at the nay sayers in her original thread everlong, which like you say, is always worth the effort if you can be bothered

Maybe it's the way the OP's written that makes the OP look like she's almost glad the mum and baby didn't have a good time because it proved her point?

I'm not saying she is! Because the OP says she loves the baby, but it read like that to me.

Thanks for the update Op.
As predicted by many, the baby became the focus of attention, and ruined everybody else's grown up evening.
Hope you got your piss up after she left Op, and I'll repeat what I said on your original thread, it wasn't the time or place for a baby on the last Friday in a resturant, before Christmas.
Good to hear that she had a good time though at the expense of the rest of you.

Didn't read the original thread but FWIW I always took DD out wherever I went, restaurants etc, and still do now she's 18mo (not often, but on the odd occasion when I go out for dinner). When she was younger she would just quietly fall asleep on me and now she usually sits and colours, eats and generally enjoys herself.
Do people really just not go out after they have a baby then?

On a Christmas night out inkonapin, on the busiest night of the year for office parties and general merriness and drunkeness?
Last place I'd ever take a baby.

I'm going to tell you straight inkonapin that no it's not always appropriate to bring your child everywhere.

It's not fair on your friends or your child. As a mother sadly you do have to sacrifice part of your social life.

I love my friend. I love her baby.

But sometimes it's nice to have adult only time.

I would imagine most people go out without their babies ink.

I'd rather sticks pins in my eyes than bring a baby into that!

You could convince me taking a baby out on mad Friday is a good idea. Especially with the entertainment described.
the parents may be happy to but not everyone else always are.

Like most people Ink - I would either get a babysitter or choose to not go. I wouldn't demand that the event becomes something different from what it was planned, because I had chosen to have a baby. Part of being a parent is understanding that things are different now and you have more to think about in terms of where/when/how you go out, rather than just picking up your keys and purse and heading out, like you used to pre-children. Many events are suitable. Many are not.

You couldn't convince me.

oh good the drama is over. Hopefully you can get over it in time for Christmas and enjoy the festivities op. You will not convince me that you love your friend and the baby after what you have posted. If you did indeed love your friend, you would have talked to her openly and not talked about her so negatively behind her back.
I think you should get out more op

I carried on going out after having children. Having kids doesn't mean the end of your life. You just make sensible decisions about where is appropriate to take your baby along and where isn't. We used babysitters and I used to express milk. If I was the type who couldn't cope with being apart from my child for more than 5 minutes id have stayed at home rather than bring my child to totally insuitable events

Op- thanks for updating, and you sound far more charitable than I would have been. Having gone to the effort and expense of hiring a babysitter and getting glammed up for a grown up night out, the LAST thing I would do play nursemaid to someone else's baby.

I hope the woman learned her lesson that it was not nice for her baby to be dragged along to a late night event with loud music. But I doubt it. People like that rarely learn by experience.

How have I spoken negatively Satine5 ?

It's my opinion. As far as I know my friend enjoyed herself, although she never seemed to fully relax.

The baby was overtired, pretty evident from the fact that he was constantly yawning and rubbing his eyes.

I wouldn't tell her not to come, and I especially wouldn't tell her not to bring her baby. It's her own decision to make.

And I get out plenty thanks. I love my social life, and don't need to justify myself to you.

And anyone who tells someone they need to get out more should look more closely at their own life.

I agreed with you on your previous thread. I am not surprised at all it panned out the way it did for that very reason.

Thank you for the update,hope you managed to knock a few cocktails back in the end!

As if the update would be that the baby came along, slept peacefully and a great night was had by all

Glad you had cocktails.

I love my friends but I don't always agree with them. a couple of my friends have very different parenting styles to me and I think they are mucking futs at times. We agree to disagree, much like OP.

I have never heard anyone describing their much loved friend as 'the mother'. Don't you agree that it sounds a bit...well, cold? The impression I had from your original post and comments that followed that you are not very fond of the person.
I am happy with my life, thanks op! Cheers!

'It's her own decision to make.'

Your friend must have known it wasn't the best solution but wasn't that fussed about what anyone else thought, knowing in the end the responsibility was hers and no-one else's.

But that goes the same for you as well though OP, as the posters on the other thread said, if you knew it would make the evening less than what you wanted, you should have stayed at home.

But then you probably understandably thought WTF shouldn't I go? And maybe felt your friend made the decision for you that you were going to spend the night with a tired baby.

FWIW, I wouldn't have taken the baby either and agree it wasn't the time or the place, but I wouldn't have thought much about anyone who did.

I was on the first thread and appreciate the update.

Sounds like it went OK overall and glad you got some cocktails in at the end.

I have never heard anyone describing their much loved friend as 'the mother'.

I'm sorry should I refer to her by her full name? I said the mother because I wasn't going to rewrite the entire thread, and by using the word mother/mum as it was an easier way to identify who I was referring to.

You've only got one 'd' in your name Forbidden, and you started the thread with two, did you drop the other one down the back of the thread?

I dropped half a bag of quavers and a thrup'ny bit down there a couple of weeks ago, better take the little hoover with you

Agent is alert tonight! OP, you also seem to have lost a 't' from the end of your original username. And both usernames are different from the one you were using on the original thread .

Are babies banned from restaurants at Christmas then? It wouldn't bother me one iota if someone did/didn't bring their baby and if it did or didn't cry. Hate parents judging the decisions other parents make. Live your own life. Shame the mother was on edge I would have been too as in that situation would feel I was being judged on bringing my tired whingy baby-seems like I would be if my friends were like the op's. Gawd's sake Merry Christmas innit?!?

Tried to change my name to something more Christmas like. Failed.

Couldn't remember how previous username was written. Far too lazy to change it back.