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WWYD? Petty Christmas Card issue with ex H

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EllenJaneisstillnotmyname · 21/12/2012 09:41

Just to say up front, it is probably me who is being petty! Long, so as not to drop feed.

Background is that STBEX H left me last Sept for an OW, with whom he'd been having a six month affair, and who he now lives with. We have 3 DSs, DS2 has SN, ASD. Our separation has been civil but not amicable. I am still very hurt and shocked that my 'decent and honourable' ex H could have left us after 22 years together, 16 of which we were married, under such difficult circumstances. I found out about the affair, (with the help of MN) and he'd been spinning me a story about having fallen out of love with me and wanting to separate without there ever being any mention of an OW, despite me asking him several times if he was having an affair.

He has the boys every other long weekend, Thursday to Sunday and alternate Tuesdays for tea. He is keen to stay in contact with his DC and is reliable about this contact, except when he goes away for holidays with his OW, about 6 times in the last 16 months, and even then he does inform me that he will be 'unavailable.' So he's trying to be a good dad, I suppose.

He was never one for keeping in contact with people and it was always my job to send Christmas cards to his old work colleagues and family.

This year my DS3's school made some fund raising Christmas cards, where the child's design is printed on a pack of cards which you can buy. I bought a set of 12 and sent them out with other cards to friends and family, only those who know DS3, which included my ex FIL. I don't contact my in laws much, as I feel they have to be loyal to ex H, so don't want to step on his toes, but I do send birthday and Christmas cards. Ex H doesn't keep in contact with my family at all, but that's his way.

Ex H has sent me a 'very disappointed' email because he's seen his dad's card from me and that it was designed by DS3. He feels I should have let him know these cards were made and given him the opportunity to have bought some himself. And he's probably right. But, TBH, it never even crossed my mind that he'd be that interested as he's never sent a Christmas card to anyone that I know of, off his own back. I suppose he has to send them himself, now, but his current work colleagues don't send cards, he's not kept in contact with any old friends from school, university, work or any of our more recent mutual friends, according to them, so I'm not sure who he'd send them to.

To me, this was one of the many, many little details of my DSs' lives that ex H isn't closely involved in, anymore. Like who comes around for a play date, what badges DS3 has got in Cubs, whose birthday party they are invited to, what school trips they go on, what after school clubs they do. If anything is happening on 'his' weekend or 'his' Thursday night, I let him know about it, eg party invitation or school trip. If it's anything I consider important, like a doctor's visit or school photos being available during their time with me, I let him know. (And buy school photos for him as he doesn't have a cheque account, which he reimburses me for.)

If we had parted under more amicable terms, I would probably share more of these little details with him, but I find it very difficult to talk to him, I'm still very raw about it all and discuss most matters by email, or text if more urgent.

How do I respond to his email? I want to say, 'Tough, them's the breaks, Karma, I'm disappointed that you chose to have an affair and break up our family, but I've got to suck it up, etc etc. It's not like this has affected his relationship with his DC at all, it's just a 'nice' extra, and I don't feel like I have to be 'nice' to him, just civil.

But I probably should have just let him have some of these fucking cards, shouldn't I?

How can I respond to his email without just sounding petty and bitter? And without admitting that I might have been in the wrong, as I don't think I should have to.

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EllenJaneisstillnotmyname · 21/12/2012 14:02

Thanks again. Boxing Day, may hit the shops, armed with sharp elbows and John Lewis vouchers! Xmas Grin

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Viviennemary · 21/12/2012 14:08

I agree with keeping it light. Just say sorry I didn't think of telling you about the cards as I had a lot on my mind it being Christmas. I'd be irritated by his 'very disappointed e-mail' too. You sound as if you are doing a great job under difficult circumstances.

TalkativeJim · 21/12/2012 14:11

'If that's the best reason you can find to be 'very disappointed' in my contribution to why you're not here to hear these things, then I'm doing pretty well.

As I've said before, as a single parent you now have to take responsibility to liaise with the school yourself on the little things as well as the big things.

You sacked your PA, remember?

Merry Christmas, Ellen.

(yes, I might well send it in your shoes)

theoriginalandbestrookie · 21/12/2012 14:53

Go Ex-FIL what a kind and thoughtful gesture.

Another vote for not responding. You have nothing to apologise for. It would be cathartic perhaps to send a guns blazing/sarcastic text but on this occasion I think silence is more effective.

If he brings it up in person then that perhaps is a good to suggest that he might want to ensure he gets communicated directly with by the school. I saw a thread a few days ago which suggested that all schools should be geared up to communicate with both parents, so regardless of the type of school, he should be able to get the emails/letters

I would absolutely not let the words sorry pass your lips or your finger tips. Seriously you have nothing to be sorry about and expressing it vindicates his ridiculous thoughts.

QuickLookBusy · 21/12/2012 15:08

Ah that's lovely of FIL..

Buy yourself some lovely things.

KittyFane1 · 21/12/2012 15:22

SO glad you're ignoring. Lovely ExFIL :)

Xales · 21/12/2012 15:36

Well there would be no point him getting the same cards and sending them to the same people lol

What a twit over something so unimportant.

Shame his disappointment doesn't extend to what he did to you isn't it...

Agree with everyone, delete and have a glass of wine.

NotWankinginaWinterWonderland · 21/12/2012 15:52

That's lovely of FIL OP, have a lovely Christmas and Boxing Day and MN is always here is you feel a little lonely!

DewDr0p · 21/12/2012 16:17

Glad your FIL is being supportive OP.

Fwiw I'd keep any reply very light - less satisfying than firing off both barrels in the short term but in the long term I'd save your energy for the big stuff.

Hope you have a lovely Christmas x

EllenJaneisstillnotmyname · 21/12/2012 16:20

I'm ignoring. Is it too early to open that Wine ?

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Peacocklady · 21/12/2012 16:52

I think you're right that FIL made him feel bad, probably by daring to point out that you'd sent a lovely card made by dgc whereas his own son hadn't and of course that's your fault, not.

What a nob, how dare he blame you for his own lacking! Maybe you should go out of your way to tell him every single little detail of what the children bring home from now on.

MagicHouse · 21/12/2012 17:14

I can empathise. I got more of that sort of email last year, but it's all calmed down now since I stopped being bothered by any of it.
I would have been tempted to say "I'd take it up with the school - I know you've arranged to get mail so they've obviously messed up".
That way you're not apologising, not taking responsibility and subtly pointing out it's actually his fault for not sorting out getting mail (while at the same time not even accusing him of not doing this, just assuming that of course he has done it after your conversation about it!!!)

sarahseashell · 21/12/2012 17:23

OP to go with the Wine can I suggest a listen to the kate nash song 'dickhead' (sorry can't do links) I find playing it is a good coping strategy for such situations and cheers me up Xmas Grin

ChocHobNob · 21/12/2012 17:27

I agree with a simple "sorry will let you know in the future" email personally.

Out of interest, would posters expect Dad to forward any information to Mum that he gets from school on his days? Or is mum supposed to chase it up herself? For example if Dad had a newsletter home on Thursday, should he send it back home with the kids or is it Mum's responsibility to chase up anything on the days she doesn't pick the kids up? I don't see the problem with letting each other know about things going on at school, quick email wouldn't take much. Puts less stress on the school.

FryOneFatChristmasTurkey · 21/12/2012 17:34

He should be sorting his on comms out with the school. It's not your job at all.

DP and I both have parentmail accounts, on the grounds we'd rather ensure we both got messages, than neither of us, even though I'm the one who deals with more of the day to day school stuff. We thought it was simply a sensible thing to do.

MagicHouse · 21/12/2012 17:46

*He should be sorting his on comms out with the school. It's not your job at all.

DP and I both have parentmail accounts, on the grounds we'd rather ensure we both got messages, than neither of us, even though I'm the one who deals with more of the day to day school stuff. We thought it was simply a sensible thing to do.*

Completely agree with this, and do the same.

DublinMammy · 21/12/2012 17:56

Ignore, open Wine, have a lovely Christmas and enjoy spending your kind FIL's vouchers on Boxing Day.

If your twattish ex mentions it again go with what Magic suggested but don't engage otherwise.

IneedAsockamnesty · 21/12/2012 17:58

Chochob,

It would be nice if people did so if convienint to them to do so, but ultimately its up to each parent to communicate with the school. Unless its with regard to an actual event that directly impacts on the parent who is due to have them on the day of the event, then it would be pretty piss poor to remove a letter in a school bag that had no relevance to you or your days and not put it back in the school bag for the parent who is was relevant to.

But school photos, craft projects ect totally dwn to each parent to arrange purchase of ect.

Enfyshedd · 21/12/2012 18:00

Personally, I'm surprised your DS3 didn't mention it himself as I guess he knew his design had been chosen. At 10/11, I would have thought he was old enough to remember to tell his DF about that all himself.

As others have said, your ExFIL sounds like a lovely man. It's good you can have a cordial, not a strained relationship with your DSs other DGPs.

ChocHobNob · 21/12/2012 18:07

Some schools are a lot better at communcating with parents. My children's school have a text messaging service which is used for school events, but they don't send things relating to each individual class and don't have a website where they display dates etc. Most of the time it is a piece of paper sent home in the book bag so unless a parent is calling daily for info or a teacher is expected to send each letter to separated parents daily (which is completely impractical) it can be very difficult to find all these little things out if you're not receiving the letters. Teachers expect parents to communicate I expect.

Unless there were truly valid reasons (not the ex is just a bit of a fuckwit) then I don't see the harm in doing what you can to keep them informed of what's happening. Like I said a quick email while you're browsing Mumsnet wouldn't be too much effort Wink

susanann · 21/12/2012 18:27

surprised DC didnt mention it to their dad at the time actually. No youre not responsible for him knowing. Enjoy Christmas x

EllenJaneisstillnotmyname · 21/12/2012 19:17

My DC are not known for being particularly communicative. Xmas Smile As I said, I probably should have mentioned the cards to ex H, and I do tell him about anything that may affect his days with the DC, and anything else I consider important. But I don't mention every little thing to him, And I just think that he was wound up about his dad getting this card from me. (And probably having it pointed out to him, 'what a lovely card DS3 has designed!')

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IneedAsockamnesty · 21/12/2012 19:18

Nothing wrong with regular contact with the school.

Always doing it for the other parent is a problem, its shows them they don't have to take the same responsibility that one parent does,it sends a message that they are not grown up enough or are to incompetent to do it themselves. It also makes it your responsibility when it should be there's. it gives them permission to be cross at you if they don't make the effort. And gives them unpleasant confirmation that you are the parent who is more involved with education.

EllenJaneisstillnotmyname · 21/12/2012 19:25

I am the parent most involved with education, TBH. I always was even before our split. I guess it's pretty common for one parent to take on most of the school runs and bookbag sorting, etc.

I do communicate things like the fact that the secondary school finished at 12.30 today so he would need to pick the older 2 up early. I found this out by checking the website as it does happen often at the end of term. I don't think ex H would have thought about it at all as previously it wouldn't have impacted him at all and I'm not going to leave my DSs waiting for ages just because I'm being petty about telling ex H. DS2 has autism and would have been very upset.

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MerryChristmasEverybody · 21/12/2012 19:53

I am confused as to why you would not tell your ex what school clubs the children attend, what badges they get from cubs etc. Do you not think these are important to him, too?? They are still his children.