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WWYD? Petty Christmas Card issue with ex H

79 replies

EllenJaneisstillnotmyname · 21/12/2012 09:41

Just to say up front, it is probably me who is being petty! Long, so as not to drop feed.

Background is that STBEX H left me last Sept for an OW, with whom he'd been having a six month affair, and who he now lives with. We have 3 DSs, DS2 has SN, ASD. Our separation has been civil but not amicable. I am still very hurt and shocked that my 'decent and honourable' ex H could have left us after 22 years together, 16 of which we were married, under such difficult circumstances. I found out about the affair, (with the help of MN) and he'd been spinning me a story about having fallen out of love with me and wanting to separate without there ever being any mention of an OW, despite me asking him several times if he was having an affair.

He has the boys every other long weekend, Thursday to Sunday and alternate Tuesdays for tea. He is keen to stay in contact with his DC and is reliable about this contact, except when he goes away for holidays with his OW, about 6 times in the last 16 months, and even then he does inform me that he will be 'unavailable.' So he's trying to be a good dad, I suppose.

He was never one for keeping in contact with people and it was always my job to send Christmas cards to his old work colleagues and family.

This year my DS3's school made some fund raising Christmas cards, where the child's design is printed on a pack of cards which you can buy. I bought a set of 12 and sent them out with other cards to friends and family, only those who know DS3, which included my ex FIL. I don't contact my in laws much, as I feel they have to be loyal to ex H, so don't want to step on his toes, but I do send birthday and Christmas cards. Ex H doesn't keep in contact with my family at all, but that's his way.

Ex H has sent me a 'very disappointed' email because he's seen his dad's card from me and that it was designed by DS3. He feels I should have let him know these cards were made and given him the opportunity to have bought some himself. And he's probably right. But, TBH, it never even crossed my mind that he'd be that interested as he's never sent a Christmas card to anyone that I know of, off his own back. I suppose he has to send them himself, now, but his current work colleagues don't send cards, he's not kept in contact with any old friends from school, university, work or any of our more recent mutual friends, according to them, so I'm not sure who he'd send them to.

To me, this was one of the many, many little details of my DSs' lives that ex H isn't closely involved in, anymore. Like who comes around for a play date, what badges DS3 has got in Cubs, whose birthday party they are invited to, what school trips they go on, what after school clubs they do. If anything is happening on 'his' weekend or 'his' Thursday night, I let him know about it, eg party invitation or school trip. If it's anything I consider important, like a doctor's visit or school photos being available during their time with me, I let him know. (And buy school photos for him as he doesn't have a cheque account, which he reimburses me for.)

If we had parted under more amicable terms, I would probably share more of these little details with him, but I find it very difficult to talk to him, I'm still very raw about it all and discuss most matters by email, or text if more urgent.

How do I respond to his email? I want to say, 'Tough, them's the breaks, Karma, I'm disappointed that you chose to have an affair and break up our family, but I've got to suck it up, etc etc. It's not like this has affected his relationship with his DC at all, it's just a 'nice' extra, and I don't feel like I have to be 'nice' to him, just civil.

But I probably should have just let him have some of these fucking cards, shouldn't I?

How can I respond to his email without just sounding petty and bitter? And without admitting that I might have been in the wrong, as I don't think I should have to.

OP posts:
financialwizard · 21/12/2012 10:48

As per a pp I am out the other side nearly and I too would ignore the email.

MolehillAlchemy · 21/12/2012 11:28

It sounds like his guilt manifesting as spurious reasons to criticise you. Typical cheating bastard behaviour.

Do whatever you can look back on in ten years time, and be comfortable with.

Maybe you could send him some cards, but get someone with norovirus to lick the sticky bits first?

EllenJaneisstillnotmyname · 21/12/2012 11:40

Nice idea! Xmas Wink Unfortunately I have sent all the cards and can't order any more. He does like to find reasons to dislike me, and I do feel it's to justify to himself his shitty behaviour. I am trying to cling to the moral high ground but occasionally fall down into the pit of bitterness and spite! Ooo, I like that metaphor. Xmas Grin

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ChaoticforlifenotjustChristmas · 21/12/2012 11:45

OP I had an amicable split with my ex. When DS was at school he designed a christmas card and the school had them made up and I bought a couple of packs. It never occured to me to mention it to my ex. To this day I don't even know if he knows that DS designed a card and DS is now 20. I've informed him of other things but not that.

It's up to your ex to make sure he is kept uptodate wrt your DC's education by contacting the school(s) and asking to be kept informed.

festivelyfocussed · 21/12/2012 11:49

WWId? Delete his e mail, pour a glass of wine and think about some of the things that you're looking forward to doing with your CDs.
C*!
Him, not you. X

gordyslovesheep · 21/12/2012 11:56

for the sake of civility and the kids just send a quick 'sorry' but you can do it through gritted teeth while flicking V's at the computer screen - YANBU

givemeaclue · 21/12/2012 12:03

Why do you need to reply?

Just click delete!

ChristmasPickles · 21/12/2012 12:07

I'm definitely in the delete and ignore camp - NOTHING winds people up more when they don't get a response to such an email.

You sound like you are doing brilliantly OP - Merry Christmas!

Allalonenow · 21/12/2012 12:12

He is just doing this to make himself feel better, and make you feel worse. He would be the perfect Christmas Dad if only you had not messed up!! He is turning the blame on to you for his own shortcomings.

Delete the email, and don't reply. He should have realized these consequences before he started playing away.

NotWankinginaWinterWonderland · 21/12/2012 12:13

I would ignore him or if I had to do as HEC says

Dear X,

Many apologies for you not looking at the schools website. Glad you seen your fathers card, Dc are very creative aren't they?,you shall know to keep in mind for next December.

Regards,

ex!

I have been where you are also, I promise you this time next year, if you keep to minimal contact with him, you will feel so much better, I do truly believe in Karma, my ex is having the shittiest time, so shitty he deeply regrets his actions.... poor poor X! Xmas Hmm I took mine back tbh, then asked him to leave again, had he not have done what he done I would never have had the time to see how much better of we are all without him.

Hope you have a lovely Christmas. Xmas Smile

Allalonenow · 21/12/2012 12:15

Xmas Grin Oh and you and your boys have a wonderful Christmas!

QuickLookBusy · 21/12/2012 12:16

My reply would be to tell him to Fuck Off.

But I expect pure too niceXmas Grin

QuickLookBusy · 21/12/2012 12:16

You're

flippinada · 21/12/2012 12:16

I do sympathise, having been there, but agree with those who say just don't reply.

If he was that bothered, he could have found out himself - you're not his personal assistant.

theleanandhungrytype · 21/12/2012 12:18

I wouldn't give him both barrels. What would that achieve? I'd have given the bastard both barrels about the affair but not about an xmas card. Given that it has happened, I think it best to be cooly amiable with him for your DCs sake, not that he was when he was shagging that other woman mind.

NotWankinginaWinterWonderland · 21/12/2012 12:26

I'm a big fan of killing people with kindness. It confuses the hell out of them! Xmas Grin Or ignoring is also good, let his mind work overtime!

PassportHell · 21/12/2012 12:30

Do not apologise. Ignore, ignore, ignore. Just because he emails/texts/calls does not mean you have to reply. He has chosen his role as a part time parent, you have been forced into the role of single parent, he does not always call the shots.

givemeaclue · 21/12/2012 13:43

keep ignoring OP - do not press that 'send' button. His problems are not your problems.

fromparistoberlin · 21/12/2012 13:49

you must be RAGING

but...sit on your hands, and either

send nothing back (best)
or send blithe 1 liner

I know this makes me sound mean but I really hope he becomes very VERY unhappy with OW

GOOD LUCK STAY STRONG XXXXXX

EllenJaneisstillnotmyname · 21/12/2012 13:50

Thank you all for your kind words. Xmas Smile I will ignore, I think.

Just to let you know, with an amazingly good bit of timing, I got a lovely Christmas Card from ex FIL today, with some john Lewis vouchers for me and a comment on how nice DS3's card was! Methinks maybe ex FIL is none too happy with his son and ex H got a bit of stick on his last visit.

Feeling much happier now. Boys are with their dad ATM so I was feeling a bit down even before I got the email. I have them Christmas Eve and Christmas morning, he has them for Christmas Dinner, and Boxing Day this year. I think I've got the best part of Christmas with them, especially as they're not keen on aroast dinner, but it'll be hard seeing them go off at lunchtime.

OP posts:
fromparistoberlin · 21/12/2012 13:51

bath
facepack
winem and wine.....
choc

and watch what you like on TV

any plans fpor boxing day??

happoy xmas!!!! you are very brave

hermioneweasley · 21/12/2012 13:52

Another vote for ignore. If you feel you must acknowledge it, do not apologise, just point out to check the website in future (even if that isn't where this info was-he's not going to know)

givemeaclue · 21/12/2012 13:53

Great job op and lovely support from fil. Enjoy your kids and bugger the ex

TandB · 21/12/2012 13:55

I'd be inclined to send something along the lines of what you wrote in your OP:

"You aren't involved in the DCs' day-to-day lives when they aren't with you, and unfortunately I can't keep you informed about absolutely everything that goes on in their lives."

TandB · 21/12/2012 13:55

Just noticed your update - good for your FIL!