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to notice that the killings in the USA

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butisthismyname · 14/12/2012 21:28

Are HUGE NEWS, but the children who are being shot and killed every day in syria, the children who live on the streets and die every day in south america and the children who are dying in third world countries are 'part of the furniture'? I know what has just happened is horrific and sad and awful, but it's just so fucking unfair. It's like the twin towers - OMG the USA is in trouble, lets be outraged ( not negating that but just an example) When will we be as understanding and sympathetic and make what is happening everywhere else in the world as important and newsworthy as this?

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Itsjustafleshwound · 14/12/2012 22:34

I don't quite see the need to quantify and validate my reactions to news items. I would be devastated if I was a parent who dropped my child at school and found out that it was last time I saw them alive in the same way I would feel devastated if I was unable to give my children a safe environment ...

A Victim is just that ...

MajesticWhine · 14/12/2012 22:34

It doesn't matter what U.S. foreign policy or what wrongs the U.S has done elsewhere. It doesn't detract from the horror of very young children being killed in their classroom.

quoteunquote · 14/12/2012 22:37

Because it is too soon, and disrespectful

I very much doubt that any one involved with the situation will be on this internet forum as they will be busy else where.

so at what point do the discussion police decree that enough time has passed that a conversation is acceptable? Just so we know?

the USA has a serious gun problem, these events will keep happing with increasing regularity,as they are well aware,Barack Obama has tried to address the problem, at the moment USA citizens kill more of each other in a year,than died in the twin towers,

the reason that people are sensitive to the level of coverage in relationship to other daily events where great numbers of children, women and men are killed , is because of USA and UK involvement in some of killings,

there is a fine line between propaganda, press censorship and denial,

I wonder how many will thinking of the massacre in Aqrab.

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treaclesoda · 14/12/2012 22:41

' it supports Israel in it's mission to wipe out Palastinians.'

And Hamas wants to wipe out Israel, so its hardly a one sided situation Confused

MiniTheMinx · 14/12/2012 22:42

Hard to imagine the thought process????? well, this incident will get a lot of coverage in our news. Everything they have, they export, they are imperialists. If this incident had happened in the uk, it probably wouldn't get any more than a brief mention on their news.

MissNJE · 14/12/2012 22:44

Nobody talks about the 22 children that were attacked with a knife in China today...

howdoo · 14/12/2012 22:44

I think that to make a direct link between this tragedy and the US's foreign policy, on the day of that tragedy, is too soon. I think to politicise this sort of event is distasteful at any time.

treaclesoda · 14/12/2012 22:44

But to get back to the original spirit of the thread...I think the reason this gains so much publicity is because, rightly or wrongly, on the whole we tend to identify with the other English speaking nations of the world, and when we see something like a mass shooting in a school it hits home, because we think 'that could be me, that could be my kids school'.

I'm not saying its right, I'm not saying American lives are worth more, because they aren't, but it just seems that bit easier to identify with.

zookeeper · 14/12/2012 22:45

I couldn't agree more with you OP.

treaclesoda · 14/12/2012 22:45

lots of people were talking about the children in China over in a thread on this subject in Chat earlier, so its not true that no one noticed it.

howdoo · 14/12/2012 22:46

FFS Mini, if this had happened in the UK today, there would be huge amounts of coverage in the US.

MiniTheMinx · 14/12/2012 22:46

Hamas have as much chance of wiping out Israel as I have of pissing in the queens handbag.

AndABigBirdInaPearTree · 14/12/2012 22:46

If this incident had happened in the uk, it probably wouldn't get any more than a brief mention on their news.

I don't think that is true. We hear about tragedies in the UK in our news here.

I agree it is insensitive to talk about it yet. Give it a day or two.

AlreadyScone · 14/12/2012 22:47

What quoteunquote said.

howdoo · 14/12/2012 22:47

And I say that as someone in the US having heard massive amounts about Kate Middleton's pregnancy in the last few days.

bumperella · 14/12/2012 22:48

So... if the Dunblane tragedy were to be repeated then it shouldn't be reported internationally because in the UK we have foreign policies that do not succeed in preventing the deaths of innocent children overseas (i.e. outwith the UK)?

PickledInAPearTree · 14/12/2012 22:49

No, what chubfuddler said.

zookeeper · 14/12/2012 22:49

I couldn't agree more with you OP

amillionyears · 14/12/2012 22:49

I agree that it wouldnt get as much news coverage in the US if it had happened in the UK.
Though I think part of that is because the USA is so huge a country.

Nancy66 · 14/12/2012 22:50

deaths in the middle east are two a penny. Ditto Africa.

that's why it's bigger news

amillionyears · 14/12/2012 22:50

howdoo, the USA is interested in our royal family, as it would like to have one of its own.

MiniTheMinx · 14/12/2012 22:51

You are so right MissNJE I listen to R4 for most of the day while I work, I hadn't heard about this incident in china. Off to google the news.

howdoo · 14/12/2012 22:52

Can you make some sort of political capital out of it while you're at it?

Bakingnovice · 14/12/2012 22:53

Please let's not argue about this tonight. Lots of innocent children have died today. As mothers lets please just say a prayer for the families of these children. Wherever and however they have been killed. Every child's life is precious. Who appreciates that more than us on this thread?