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To not like this Idea of a new multicultural Britain

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monkeyfarm · 12/12/2012 10:55

I suspect this probably won't go down too well but I'm just being honest as I'm interested to see if I'm the only one who feels this way?
I hate how things are changing, how I can be in a store feel like I'm in eastern europe, why are we one of the only countries that do this? why can't we take a leaf out of the book of Australia and open our doors to people who have something to contribute and not just all and sundry?
Am I on my own in feeling this way?

OP posts:
SaskiaRembrandtVampireHunter · 12/12/2012 22:51

Only because the EU hasn't existed for that long; we've had mass European migration for far more than the last 300 years.

Illgetmycoat · 12/12/2012 22:57

Mais oui! Je deteste l'idee d'Angleterre Multicultural. Mes relatives ont arrived avec William le Conqueror et nous sommes alors tres posh. Tout les monde apres nos - piss off!

So daft. You don't see any 'Romans go home' these days, do you?

Illgetmycoat · 12/12/2012 22:58

Zut alors! Je deteste auto correct. Apres nous (obviously)

SaskiaRembrandtVampireHunter · 12/12/2012 22:58

KarlosKKrinkelbeim Yes, and as equality is protected by law and supported by most of society, anyone who moves here is bound to oblige by those conventions. I know some people choose not to, but they are not reason enough to argue against immigration on the whole.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 12/12/2012 23:00

I wasn't saying they were, merely that the airy fairy smuggery about how marvellous diversity is is';t the whole story. It brings problems too, and we are not, in my view, as open as we should be in discussing them.

Illgetmycoat · 12/12/2012 23:08

Ooh la la! J'ai tue le fil.

narmada · 12/12/2012 23:21

I have never met a bright racist.

I wonder to what extent threads like this are linked on talkboards of single-issue pressure groups???

Mrs DV I luff you a little bit.

But I do hope you get that post out of your back passage soon, must be uncomfortable ;)

Cozy9 · 12/12/2012 23:23

Patrick Moore was by all acounts a racist. David Starkey has been accused of being a racist. If being opposed to mass immigration, or thinking that British culture is superior to most other cultures in the world is racist, than there's a lost of racists in this country, including me.

Jinsei · 12/12/2012 23:23

I find threads like this very useful. They help me to keep my spreadsheet up to date. Thanks OP. Wink

DoingitOnTheRoofTopWithSanta · 12/12/2012 23:49

British culture is superior to most other cultures in the world is racist,

You have based this assumption on a very vast knowledge of other cultures I guess? I think I have the most superior fanny. I have no personal knowledge of any other fannies, but I reckon mine is the best.

Pendeen · 12/12/2012 23:52

OP, Britian is most certainly not multicultural, the very idea is nonsense.

It all depends where you live...

GB mix

SaskiaRembrandtVampireHunter · 12/12/2012 23:57

KarlosKKrinkelbeim You may not have been making that point, but it has been used as an argument on this thread. I agree with you that when you get insular communities and people who practice moral relativism there is a problem. But that's very different to arguing against immigration per se as the OP and other seem to be doing.

Cozy9 You think British culture is "superior to most other cultures in the world"? Words fail me.

SaskiaRembrandtVampireHunter · 12/12/2012 23:59

DoingitOnTheRoofTopWithSanta My DH insists I have the finest arse on the planet. Admittedly, he hasn't seen every single arse on the planet, but that's his opinion so it must be true.

Jinsei · 13/12/2012 00:11

Grin @ doingit.

There are so many things I'd like to say to cozy, but I don't like arguing with children so I will restrain myself.

monsterchild · 13/12/2012 00:41

If British culture is so much more superior to other cultures, why the surprise about immigration? Isn't it just and fitting that everyone else in the world wants a piece of that superiority?

DoingitOnTheRoofTopWithSanta · 13/12/2012 00:45

I am sure it saskia Grin
You are better than me jinsei, I can't help but argue with children :)

sashh · 13/12/2012 00:54

It would be nice though if everyone who decided to live in the UK learned to speak English since it would make life easier...

Not in certain areas of Wales or some Scottish Islands. Te 'life in the UK test' can be takin in 4 official languages of the UK.

Jahan · 13/12/2012 00:56

I always dread reading threads like these but when I do, im so pleased to see that the majority of posters are decent and not racists. I hope its a reflection on society as a whole.

When I went to Turkey last year, some English immigrants had opened up a 'pub serving traditional English food like 'full English breakfast, sausage sandwich, fish and chips and chicken curry' :)

Pendeen · 13/12/2012 00:59

"I will also repeat pendeen you come from an ivory tower perspective, I come from a mass inload. "

That's the point.

Your perspective is irrelevant.

Your view is of a tiny minority of the UK.

Here, 99% white, where you are probably less than 50% white.

Yes I agree I'm probably "ivory tower" so, Cornwall is not representative but neither is inner london.

Valdeeves · 13/12/2012 01:07

Yep - britains always been multicultural - you have to accept that due to widespread migration the whole world is changing and that's that. For me personally I'm glad as I have a wonderful husband and now two "mixed" children due to migration - and he comes from a family that has provided three adults who have given much to the economy including working directly for the government.
You don't choose where you are born, so why shouldn't you be able to move to have a better life? There are people from all walks of life who take advantage and likewise those who don't. It's pointless getting het up about it. There's only one place where you'll find all the same people and you'd need a time machine to get back - Nazi Germany.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers · 13/12/2012 01:21

monkey the doors are all but shut to people who have nothing to contribute. The only other thing would be to leave the EU and that would be an economic disaster. So YABU.

Cozy9 · 13/12/2012 01:31

We don't HAVE to accept anything, we live in a democracy. Britain has not always had the amount of immigration we have had in the past 15 years, it was deliberately engineered by those on the left to "rub the rights nose in diversity", and to provide future votes for Labour. Do you think Labour politicians will be the ones to suffer when it all goes tits up in the not too distant future?

Mimishimi · 13/12/2012 04:45

I'm from Australia and whilst it's true that we do favour skilled immigrants, a large proportion of those coming are from different cultures to the Anglo-Celtic one. The biggest source of illegal immigrants in Australia are British natives who've just assumed it's okay to overstay their visa, considering we were once your colony and all. LOL. With over 250 years of the glorious British Empire on which the sun never sets (ie taking control over other countries) some multiculturalism was bound to be the result. It was also right-wing governments who encouraged immigration to make up for all the numbers that they slaughtered in all those wars, also to encourage a 'flexible labour market' (ie slave wages). This is also true of Australia. It's also true that many of us, or our ancestors, within the Anglo-Celtic-European culture have got picked on from time to time for not being the 'right sort' (whether we be Irish, pikey, 'kikes' etc) so my sympathies for the nativist point of view are pretty thin because they wouldn't have half the population problems that they do if they hadn't spent so much time knocking us all off.

margarethamilton · 13/12/2012 07:09

Britain has not always had the amount of immigration we have had in the past 15 years, it was deliberately engineered by those on the left to "rub the rights nose in diversity", and to provide future votes for Labour.

Cozy I'm interested to know your source for this assertion and where you're quoting from. I'm a member of the Labour Party and I'm not aware of this as a tactic for winning votes. Hmm

PessaryPam · 13/12/2012 07:15
  1. Multiculturalism and Multiracialism are used interchangeably and they are completely different.
  1. OP is a minority on MN but probably not in RL.
  1. I am fine with any race, not fine with some cultures if I'm honest.
  1. Think it's more important people participate and improve the general society for us all.
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