to be shocked that less than half of people in London are white

[Ilovecoffeeandchocolate]

I was reading the article below and was shocked to see how much this country especially London has changed over the last ten years and feel concerned that immigration is too high for what is an already overcrowded island especially in the south east!

www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/dec/11/census-2011-religion-race-education?intcmp=239

But kitty...she isn't being racist. She has expressed surprise at a statistic not pronounced white people to be the best kind. Look up the definition of racist.

Bit telling that OP hasn't been back though.

OP is obvs unaware that we all came from Africa.
Which makes us all immigrants.

I am a second gen immigrant - but white - so that's okay I guess

it says 'describe themselves as white British' - somoe Brits are not white - OMGEE shock horror somebody tell the Daily Fail

seriously who gives a tiny rats wank

Just seen another article on this. It says more than 1 in 10 people in Britain are not British born. So that is probably just over one in 10, so just over 10% of people in Britain are non british born. It didn't say about white/black/Asian etc British born.

So hardly being over run are we?

Yes I think we are too soft in some cases on immigration. But I don't think being White makes you British, being black doesn't make you not British.

The way I see it, we are very lucky to live in a country so great that people from all over the works want to live here. And I don't blame people who may have horrific lives elsewhere coming here to try and make a nice life for them and their families.

OP I don't know if you meant your post to come across the way it has.

I meant all over the world not works.

We are overpopulated. Immigration needs to halt until we can sort ourselves out.

Most of the people that go on about "vibrancy" etc don't live in normal working-class areas that feel the negative effects of mass immigration.

If we limited immigration to highly skilled people and their immediate families there wouldn't be a problem. There has never been any justification for immigration of low and semi-skilled people, other than to suppress wages and force up house prices.

I wonder how long it will be before that question is a nonsense, when the majority are so mixed that unpicking a specific ethnicity is not possible.

Ilovecoffeeandchocolate

DO you love coffee and chocolate though, OP? Because I believe those things are both.... NOT WHITE! They're also not indigenous to this country. I believe that if you stop to take a moment to think about it, you might find you're a bit shocked by both coffee and chocolate.

is Tyseley normal and working class enough - lived there for a long while :)

Cozy9 should all OUR immigrants from Spain, NZ, Aus and the world over come back here then?

OP needs a name change ...I love white bread and gravy ...and white people maybe

My post was clearly not judging people on race just that it was surprising that less than half of people in London would describe themselves as white British. As i said before I am not white British but mixed race with my dm from Jamaica.

"Cozy9 should all OUR immigrants from Spain, NZ, Aus and the world over come back here then? "
If the countries live in want to kick them out, sure. But most British ex-pats contribute to their adopted countries. If they didn't. they wouldn't be there.

cozy9 we have a MINIMUM wage in the uk - so that's rubbish - also how do semi skilled people force up house prices if they are one low wages?

most Immigrants contribute - many don't have recourse to public funds - many work and pay tax - facts - they do get in the way of bigotry

You might want to re-think your thread title if you don't want this to appear to be about race.

Have you been to London OP?

I have every reason to be grateful to immigrants (two doctors from India, in particular) but there is a downside: the lovely field across the road is being dug up to build new houses. Immigration has put great pressure on housing stock. So, in this village we are losing an ancient field, and view. We can never get them back again. That's a little bit of rural England your children and mine will never enjoy again.

Yes i do like coffee and chocolate and my dm brings back coffee from Jamaica (blue mountain, highly recommended) when she visits so clearly I know the raw ingredients are not grown in this country.

Purple
I think the effect is more noticeable in London because there is a higher proportion of non-UK born people. Some boroughs its over 50%. There are a lot French voters in the UK and there is a French MP for Northern Europe. Many of the French expats are in London.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17893296.

I love living in London but I can understand why people are surprised at just how diverse it is.

but new housing i lovely rural locations unlikely to be purchased by poor immigrants - more like to be richer Brits I would have thought?

lack of social housing and affordable homes are an issue - but not due to immigration - more due to lack of investment and the selling off of council stock and bargain prices

I have noticed a massive increase in the population since 2001. We cant cope with all the people here and something needs to be done to stop the people flooding in. There are thousands of Filipinos, Polish etc here illegally on top of the people here legally.

OP, I think you have expressed youself very badly in you title and OP, and have a slippery grasp on stats (for e.g no, the rest of the country is not 86% white british, that is the overall figure for the whole country), but it sounds as if it is a matter of not meaning things the way you make them sound.