to feel even less sympathy for the Australian DJs after watching their interview?

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Especially the guy.

The woman said she hopes the public respect the privacy of the nurses family.

Shame she didn't show the same respect of Kate's privacy.

Amberleaf

Because I think if you accidentally cause harm or damage to someone you should still apologise. Just because it was an unintentional consequence of your actions, its still a result of your actions.

I believe none of it was intentional. But I dont think it can be denied that the prank has contributed to this, and since the prank was their idea, and their actions, I think they should apologise for the part they played in it.

As should the hospital, the media, all the people who where baying for the nurses sacking, and the idiots at the station who sanctioned playing the recording

I agree whistling . I doubt very much that she was supported .

Well I suppose you should only apologise if you mean it.

Exactly llama . It's common decency to apologise for anything that's an accident .

I agree with Hobbit, the media circus around the "royal pregnancy" was ridiculous. The DJs did something stupid and will have to live with it. We need to be careful that the DJs aren't pushed to taking their own life too!

Bakingnovice, can I just point out this has nothing to do with the nhs it is a private hospital so what you know or not know about senior nhs management is irrelevant here

Alladins - apologies. My mistake for not checking all the facts.

What I was trying to say was that I'm sure the hospital played its part here. As did the media. Hopefully the next 7 months won't be as crazy. There are lessons to be learnt by all parties. The hospital, the media, and perhaps the general public too. Also, I can't believe royal protocols relating to incoming calls were not in place. In any case, I agree with posters above that we need to stop trying to find the most culpable.

My favourite moment was when the interviewer said "and are you getting help? counselling etc?" why worry about their state of mind? They're the last people who need sympathy no matter how many tears are shed.

When you've done something wrong, you should apologize, plain and simple. My daughter has spent the last couple of months being subjected to name calling by 3 "friends", called dirty, ugly, bitch and useless for scoring the occasional 19 out of 20. I was very upset then to find she had replied by writing the work yuck and liar against 2 photos on one of the girls facebook pages and told her it didn't matter the other girls didn't apologize, it didn't matter what words the other girls had called her, it mattered she was remorseful for rising to their bait and replying with horrible comments. So I told her to put herself in the place of her "friend" when she read those FB comments and she apologized to her. I'm sick of people describing what was done as a stupid prank. Pranks have consequences, pranks have victims, they are carried out by twits. Those twits should apologize, but not before they've thought about why they need to apologize.

I think the interview was a mistake, it made them appear intensely unlikable; the longer they spoke , the worse it sounded. I expect the intention was to show, as he said that they are real people too but it backfired.

Maybe a line should be drawn under this now. Two dc are mourning a mother, a dh is mourning his wife, a sick elderly mother in India is mourning her dd, a pregnant young woman is upset, hospital staff are shocked and upset and 2 young DJs are at least shocked by what has happened. With all these people come families and friends who are burdened and I think it should not spiral further. IMO it should perhaps be the end of two broadcasting careers but I don't think we need any more publicity on it.

Feel awful for the family of the nurse who took her own life. No sympathy for the idiots who carried out this sick "joke"!!! However, it was not forseeable that such a tragic outcome would happen. Things like this i.e. fake phone calls have happened before but the guilty parties should be fired.

Totally agree with ZZZ.

Don't get me wrong I think its appalling what the idiotic, pathetic DJs did without any regard to the consequences of their actions.

But what about the station bosses? Should they not be held accountable?

My initial thought was to the nurses and how they would probably lose their jobs over the incident, after all, yes they were tricked, but they still breached patient confidentiality. (cant help thinking had a suicide not resulted these nurses would still be in hot water with the hospital).

And am I missing something here? The late nurse simply transferred a call. She did not actually do anything wrong. I imagine she had a lot of other issues going on to even contemplate suicide (an act I personally find extremely selfish). I have immense sympathy for her family, but do not think the djs can be blamed for her taking her own life especially when we do not and will not ever know the full story.

Enough is enough. What do people want to happen now? The djs to commit suicide? Let it rest, I know the interview did not come off too well but I genuinely believe that they are tremendously remorseful for their actions.

I am currently listening to Julia Hartley brewer on sky news. I agree with every word she has said as unpalatable as it is.
Those pranksters didn't kill the poor woman.
The coverage is shocking
The hospital is as much to blame
And this nurse wasn't even named. No one knew who she was. Why did she feel so responsible?

I thought the interviews were awful, very staged. However, I do believe that the two DJs are genuinely very upset. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the case, they surely could never have anticipated this outcome and you'd have to be a pretty heartless person not to be affected by what has happened. They will have to live with that for the rest of their lives.

I agree that there are questions for the hospital to answer. It isn't clear why the staff weren't briefed properly about protocols and security etc. However, I don't think they should necessarily be vilified for what has happened either. We don't know what support they did or didn't offer, and wanting to "have a chat" with the nurse could have been just that.

I guess more will come out at the inquest. :(

The team behind the dj's are as bad if not worse than them.

The hospital should have had a policy in place but they are nowhere near as bad as the others.

They choose to do the prank, they went ahead with it.

They are wrong.

And I do realise they contacted him, but yawn at Keith Vaz getting his supercilious face in everywhere.

What is really frustrating me about this whole affair is that junior staff are in front line roles and facing public comment yet management actions did not prevent events occuring as they did....who and where are those people now?

I work in a district general. A few yrs ago there was a 'minor' event and I received media training. It was arranged rapidly, explicit in content and restrictive. It gave me knowledge and told me how to deflect and deal with the media. It protected me.

WHY did a hospital containing possibly the most reported event this month not have a policy and extra staffing to manage the media? Why was switchboard not screening calls? It's a ridiculous set up.

Lawyers and management knew the consequence of airing that clip - knew that a nurse would lose their job. They chose to air it.

Let them step forward and acknowledge their roles here

Yes the hospital is to blame and yes the people behind the dj's are to blame, as is the radio station.

However no matter how big or little the blame is these two people are a part of it.

They stated that the joke was on them. Really?

The royal family are known throughout the world. Surely they should have realised the repercussions of their 'prank', such as someone could lose their job and be hurt and humiliated - all these are predictable.

Keith Vaz didn't have much choice on this occasion - the family contacted him, he could hardly have refused. I'm not his biggest fan, but if he has been able to offer the family any support, then I'm glad of that.

I felt so awful for the family. The daughter looked haunted. No kid should have to deal with this.

I think all the press needs to take some blame, including the news programmes that broadcast the nurse's voice on the tape.

Feisty - it didn't play better to me, and I am an Aussie. I had a lot of sympathy for the DJs (I still do a bit) but two minutes into the interview I knew they shouldn't have done it because they came across horribly.
They have put an indefinite ban on radio pranks at the moment, the while Austereo network which is nationwide so that's a good thing IMO.