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To feel sorry for hoax call Djs

100 replies

PearlyWhites · 10/12/2012 14:02

I don't agree with the hoax call, they didn't think it through but no one could have foreseen what was to happen.

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CremeEggThief · 10/12/2012 16:19

I don't think YABU to feel sorry for them. Obviously, they could never have predicted what would happen, but I feel they deserve to suffer the enormous guilt this should have caused them. I think that is punishment enough for them.

I hope this will put an end to the whole prank calls issue. I doubt anyone with any empathy has ever thought they were funny.

LtXmasEve · 10/12/2012 16:20

Well yes, the family would be a good idea too - I just think that sometime donations like that can be seen as a kind of 'blood money' and wouldn't want the family to be upset if that is the way they would view it IYSWIM?

Maybe a trust for the kids?

nemno · 10/12/2012 16:25

I hate pranks and practical jokes too. I cringe with embarrassment whenever I anticipate someone being humiliated. In some cultures to make someone 'lose face' is terribly bad manners and the shame of those who lose face is more than just temporary discomfort.

This is just so tragic and the DJs did cause it through crass behaviour. So I don't feel anything like as sorry for them as I do for the family of that poor woman.

ladyintheradiator · 10/12/2012 16:30

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legoballoon · 10/12/2012 16:52

Pranks aren't nice. But within the media there's a whole genre of entertainment given over to mocking people (e.g. footage of the clearly untalented hoardes who audition for the reality/talent shows), practical 'jokes' (e.g. Prank Patrol / Candid Camera / Simon Mayo's 'Confessions') and watching people get hurt (e.g. where people get £200 for 30 seconds of footage of someone having an accident, ha ha).

Surely a hospital dealing with 'slebs etc. would have protocols in place to deal with incoming calls, e.g. a password system etc. It is unfair in the first place to 'name' one individual nurse as the one who 'let the call past' and equally unfair to blame 2 misguided DJs for the death of that nurse.

Had SuBo topped herself after all the ridicule she got when she first appeared on whatever talent show she did, the media would have been wringing their hands and baying for Simon Cowell's balls on a plate.

It's an unfortunate, tragic situation, nothing more.

FreudiansSlipper · 10/12/2012 17:02

i agree legoballon

it has got so out of hand i feel sorry for all those involved and i agree the media are hypocritical they are allowed to harass and hound people to report the news but a hoax call that was never expected to get through is outrageous

OnwardBound · 10/12/2012 17:46

Agree legoballoon.

I have just written a lengthy post on the other thread on this issue and don't want to bore anyone rehash it here.

But seriously the professionally offended, morally outraged, competitive grievers are out in force on this one.

As are those 'who can just tell' that the DJs were smarmy and playing for sympathy Hmm

Will some of you not be satisfied until these two young and foolish presenters who presented a superficial youth orientated radio show are 'made an example of', 'hung out to dry', 'strung up' and a few other choice phrases I've heard here?

So on it goes from calls for a nurse to be sacked which ends in tragedy to this witch hunt.

It's mass hysteria fuelled by television, the newspapers and social media.

DoesntTurkeyNSproutSoupDragOn · 10/12/2012 17:50

I don't feel sorry for them. I hope this makes them realise there is a real person at the end of any prank and you can not be sure how they will react. I don't think they deserve the witch hunt though.

I don't understand how the radio station claim to have "called the hospital 5 times" to ask permission to broadcast it but never got through and thus they did it anyway. I think most other prank programmes have the consent of the "victim" before going ahead with a broadcast.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 10/12/2012 18:07

Firstly they made a prank call, which was not only stupid, but was also extremely disrespectful to Kate, and the Queen of this country!

They then got extremly private information about a woman who was ill in hospital and broadcast it.

When it all broke and they had been taken off air the male DJ was still plugging it on his twitter, very pleased with himself for making headlines.

Only after the death of the poor nurse do they show any remorse! Is that acceptable? Did someone have to die to make them see how stupid it all was?

I dont feel sorry for them at all. They arent the ones who lost a family member.

Witchety · 10/12/2012 18:10

'young and foolish'

That old chestnut!!!

BelaLugosisShed · 10/12/2012 18:14

It's just one tiny part of the abyss that is modern media - cruel, mocking and deeply hurtful, anyone who watches any of the reality tv crap that involves ritual humiliation , like Big Brother, I'm a celebrity etc. should hang their heads in shame, they are as guilty as those making such crap.
People who involve themselves in pranks and those who find them funny, are morons.

You reap what you sow, as those two idiots are finding out now, perhaps this will be a turning point , but I doubt it.

Nancy66 · 10/12/2012 18:16

what about people that post poison on internet sites....like Mumsnet?

Witchety · 10/12/2012 18:39

Then it's reported ( to mnhq) and removed!umsnet are responsible.... Not like the radio station who chose to then go on and air it!!

Nancy66 · 10/12/2012 18:41

not always. the 'nurse should be sacked' thread was up for a few days.

The majority of the mocking and calls for dismissal that I read were on sites like this, Twitter and Facebook. In other words being banded about by the general public.

grimbletart · 10/12/2012 18:44

I feel dreadfully sorry for Jacantha's family.

I feel sorry for the Duchess because she was the unwitting subject of the call.

But those two immature, irresponsible little wankers who think it is funny to ring a hospital and ask for personal medical details - they can fuck off.

EverlongLovesHerChristmasRobin · 10/12/2012 18:46

When the interviewer asks them after they had been through by Jacintha did they not then think about going ahead, they look uncomfortable but just spout the stupid comment that they couldn't have known the outcome. They take no blame for this.

' Fun, light hearted, just another prank ' Again no responsibility.

They come across as very cold and worried but only for their own backs.

But the station itself should not let this happen.

LtXmasEve · 10/12/2012 18:47

I agree about the culture of humiliation we seem to have these days. I didn't watch X Factor this year after the auditions stage where there was the middle aged woman who said she 'sang like Madonnas' on - the one who was really, really awful and whose teen kids were waiting in the wings. It made me feel pretty sick to think of the humiliation - not so much for the singer, who seemed oblivious, but oh those poor kids with school on Monday...

We didn't watch another episode.

I also hate things like Strictly with really bad dancers - Anne Widdicome, Russell grant etc. I cringe for them, I really do.

Thats why I hate pranks etc and why I can't feel sorry for the DJs - it was wrong from the start, no matter what happened after.

chicaguapa · 10/12/2012 19:04

I feel sorry for them. It was just a prank call. The DJs didn't make the nurse kill herself. Only she chose to put her loved ones through that hurt. I can't believe it was just about the prank call. I mean, seriously? Yes it's sad but deliberately leaving your DC without a mother? How bad would it have to be to hurt your family that much and not see your DC grow up?! A hell of a lot worse than that surely? Obviously we don't know but there has to be more to it than what the DJs did.

peaceandlovebunny · 10/12/2012 22:03

there's no such thing as 'just a prank call'. prank calls aren't meant to be friendly, happy events. they are sneaky, designed to make people uncomfortable.

stop trying to suggest she didn't love her children. strangers attacked her and broke her.

what exactly do you think is worse than being shamed globally?

Isityouorme · 10/12/2012 22:07

There must be a lot more to the poor woman's life than the general public know .... Her death was caused by multiple people and factors.

frankie4 · 10/12/2012 22:13

Legoballoon - I agree with everything you have said

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BirdwithinaBird · 10/12/2012 22:34

No sympathy from me at all.

To even consider causing mischief primarily involving a woman who was extremely unwell with hyperemesis gravidarum, was at best a ill thought out, cruel prank, at worst, well we have seen one of the worst outcomes ever. I am quite sure Kate has been affected from this fallout too. They are adults, who behaved like a pair of daft school kids. They are just covering their tracks, and most probably will have another silly snigger about being able to fool some of the people with their performance today.

It was just another lame show of the now well used phrase ' It's not our fault '. It is their fault, no call, no suicide.

Enfyshedd · 10/12/2012 22:35

I read one article which said that the family of the female DJ were concerned about her wellbeing and concerned that she may harm herself, which seemed to imply that she may may have form for self-harming in the past. If this really is the case, then I truly can't have any sympathy for her and her colleague as she should understand what a person under pressure could do.

It is apparently illegal in Australia to broadcast a recording of a person without their permission - the radio station are now claiming that they tried to call the hospital several times before transmission, but failed to speak to anyone. They broke Australian law.

Sorry, but I can't feel sorry for the DJs. It was a "joke" which went too far, and this just proves how stupid things like this are.

runningforme · 10/12/2012 22:41

I feel sorry for them. Sure, it was a silly thing to do, but I do find it rather odd that all it took for a woman to commit suicide was answering and passing on a prank call. She didn't reveal anything herself. And the embarrassment/shame or whatever was enough to cause her to take her own life, leaving her children motherless??? I don't buy it. I think that there is definitely more to this than we are being told....

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