to think DH's work are DISGUSTING for not paying people when they are sick?

[MoomieAndFreddie]

he has worked for them for 5 years, been an absolutely exemplary, loyal employee. he started as a warehouseman and has been promoted 3 times since being there, and is now a senior manager. he has completely turned around his branch and its earning about 5 x the profit it was when the last manager was in charge. the last time he took time off sick was about 3 years ago (for 2 days) when he had swine flu.

he has gone in to work on loads of occasions when he has felt unwell, because they DON'T PAY SICK PAY. basically, they just ASSUME people are skiving.

so anyway, he is really poorly with flu. yet he has dragged himself in today, so he is going to infect his whole team, customers and probably not be able to even do his job properly just for the sake of "presenteeism"

and who does he work for, I hear you ask? well, its not just a small back street business who probably genuinely can't afford to pay when workers are absent - this is a huge, multi, multi million organisation....

YOU TIGHT, STINGY, HORRIBLE BASTARDS, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.

[NOTE FROM MNHQ: OP has been edited to remove company name at the OP's request]

Surely that's not legal? Don't companies have to provide sick leave?

i thought most places did that? ive never been paid for being ill and dh doesnt either, we use our holiday days instead

unless you have a sick note i mean

I've not yet worked anywhere there has stumped up for sick pay. There is the statutory pay you're entitled to, but think that only kicks in after you've had three days off.

Surely he gets SSP if off for 4 or more days which presumably if its flu he will be

But YANBU a company like that should have sick pay in contract!

Unfortunately plenty of people do not pay sick pay. My husbands company doesnt, nor did the one before that. SSP is the only option. It is legal.

My husband has never been paid sick leave. He is a heating engineer and worked for several companies, none have ever paid it.

I think there are certain sectors that just don't.

I have always been paid sick pay, I used to work for a local Community DrugTeam.

Investigate SSP. My husband never received sick pay when he was working as a consultant. We had to factor it in and put some savings aside so that when he did get sick as he inevitably would, he could take some time off without the worry of not being paid. Perhaps going forward it might be worth planning this into your budget if you're able to?

DH's work doesn't pay sick pay. SSP is the only way to go but you have to be off for more than 3 days.

Mind you DH's work are a shower of wankers who would sell their granny's soul to make money

I worked for a large Bank and after 10 years service I qualified for a FULL YEAR of full sick pay, so it was a shock when I left and joined the NHS where we are allowed 5 "casual days" (uncertified) on full pay, in any rolling 12m period, then SSP only.

I was shocked to discover the Bank was just extremely generous and I was now in the real world.

Symapthies-it really sucks, but if he can get a certificate at least he can claim SSP, which is not much, but better than nothing.

Be careful Moomie. It might not be hard for your DH's employer to link this back to your DH, if they see the thread.

I do agree with you, though. Is he not entitled to SSP? He should check. Hope he is feeling better soon.

I thought everywhere paid sick pay now? I've yet to have a job or apply for one where sick pay isn't included. Not because I look for it especially,it's just always there as a "benefit".

In my last job there was only statutory sick pay for the first 6 months,after that they paid you x amount of days in line with length of service.

On the flip side,there was no maternity pay except statutory,which was odd as there was paternity pay

My husband's company doesn't pay sick pay as a rule either.

They tend to use their discretion though, in circumstances like yours they'd pay, but someone who is always off sick wouldn't.

They're a small company and just look at each occasion on merit iyswim

DH works from home though, so generally works even if he is ill

Don't think I actually know of a company that do unless you have a sick note then you legally get sick pay?

Most civil service jobs get full sick pay.

OP, I know you are angry, but you might be best to report your OP and get it removed for naming the company. Your H could get into trouble.

What they are doing is legal, if a bastard's trick

hmm perhaps was a bit, erm, hasty of me to NAME them....

have reported my OP to ask for their name to be removed.....

The security industry is the same, although most staff are thankful they get their wages paid on time and in full. It sucks.

Our local council no longer gives sick pay for the first three days of sickness. I can understand why they did it as plenty of people in the public sector used to take the piss. It is hard on people who work in a school and cannot taken annual leave to cover sickness. Unpaid sick leave is really tough on a sole earner. It is not great having someone who is ill coming in and spreading germs to the rest of the team.

I think the ideal would be to have five days available to cover uncertified sickness and a small bonus for those who had no sick leave in a financial year.

Yabu. If he is off 4 days or more he will get ssp. Which is the legal entitlement.

When I did public sector payroll it was obvious how many people knew the loopholes and took what they saw as their "sick entitlement".

If they're the type to not pay sick pay they're also potentially the type to discipline employees for slagging them off on the web. I'd get the whole thread pulled OP. Not saying you're wrong, but just you should get it deleted.

YABU there are millions of people who would love a job right now, sick pay or no sick pay! What they are doing is legal too!

Everywhere I have worked that has sick pay has had some employees taking the days as extra holidays, I know its annoying but I can see why companies do it.