To not want a minute by minute account of Kate's pregnancy and little sympathy for her.

[babbas]

She's rich, she has all the support in the world and will have no cooking, cleaning, vocational work or responsibilities. I really really really do not want to have daily updates on her condition or her pregnancy for the next nine months! It's so typical of everything she stands for that they have already announced she will have to be on rest for the foreseeable future. As opposed to doing what exactly??!

My best friend had HG and lost a stone in 8 days. She went to hospital and was told to pull her herself together as most women had morning sickness. No time off work, no help whatsoever.

soverylucky oh dear. This is getting heavy going. My wording raises only the possibility of that scenario (ie nothing more). Not that that is the only possibility.

I think its GOOD this condition is gaining more awareness via people like Kate and Kirstie.

When I was ill, I got the impression some people thought I was exaggerating my extreme sickness as " everyone else I know wasn't as bad as you".Yes, well neither was I in my first pregnancy! Second one was a different story.

I think this condition been highlighted by women in the public eye is good for both awareness and perhaps encouraging people to do more research and find solutions.

Could anyone imagine a royal family which was not extremely rich?

Cross-posted, sorry. I'm not hugely bothered about coming across badly, I'm sure I do so routinely.

I happen to think there's a good chance that this is all precautionary and that Kate has morning sickness not hg, which if proved correct in a few weeks time will result in trivialising hg. It's that simple.

pickety there are a great many ex-royal family members around the world who are far from rich, even poor. Courtesy of various depositions, revolutions and wars.

Am I just thick or... hasn't what people have said on here about HG contrast with Kirstie's account of events?

Kirstie also compared HG to chemotherapy "without wanting to frighten us". Ok, ok, so chemo makes you feel sick, but that aside it is a fucking awful poor comparison.

She's not exactly provided a fantastic case for HG awareness.

there was a poster on this thread who hashg and chemotherapy, she said the hg made her feel worse. it may have been om one of the other threads about this, thete are a few...

anyway like all things how you feel is very individual, some people are affected more by some illmesses and treatments.

obviously with pregnancy you should be getting a baby at the end of it which is something positive. with chemotherapy you are trying to treat cancer, some may feel that the sickness is worth it? but it seems (to me at least) a more miserable place to be starting from ie no baby at the end to look forward to. ultimately its futile trying to compare illnesses etc esp with pregnancy.

I think the chemo comparison was in poor taste.

However everyone experiences these things differently. I wasn't classed as HG as I could keep water down and never was hospitalised but it was still horrific.I don't think I was as bad as kirstie by any means though.

I was lucky as eventually they gave my tablets but apparently they are reluctant to normally do it due to cost! Seems unfair that its a lottery if your allowed access to medication or not.

Too add if the medication really is that expensive they should research cheaper alternatives. Its quite worrying knowing your baby isn't getting any proper nutrients when you cant keep anything down.

that should say there was a poster who has had hg and chemotherapy

do you realise that some of the drugs they use to treat HG are the same drugs they us to treat the sickness with chemotherapy?

I had them too when i was in hospital with HG last week...

perhaps that is why it actually is comparable, in the sense they can use they same drugs to treat the condition?

Yes ive herd that they cost £20 per dose, so £60 a day.... yes that would be very expensive over 9months

Antiemetics are prescribed for lots of things, not just chemotherapy and certainly not just HG. But a pregnancy often ends (we can presume happily) with a baby. Chemotherapy, or rather what it's treating, doesn't often end so well.
And I think it's important to remember that sickness & vomiting is just one of many horrible side effects of chemotherapy.

I can't believe anyone thinks Kate isn't as ill as what is being implied.

She almost certainly wouldn't have wanted to be hospitalised on a whim, given the fact she and William didn't want to announce the pregnancy yet, because of the early stages. Like most couples they wanted to keep it quiet in these crucial first weeks. Yet when Kate was hospitalised, they knew they would have to announce it earlier.

And to refer to the earlier 'brainwashed' post, I am no royalist (far form from it) and I find constant newspaper articles about what Kate (and her sister) are wearing tiresome. I'm most certainly NOT a member of the Kate Middleton fan club.

I am however, a compassionate human being, who feels sorry for her that she's having to experience this.

Babbas, I'm 100% with you on this.

Catherine is pregnant with another entitled aristocrat who will want for nothing in his/her life.

No waiting around crowded hospital waiting rooms for Kate's ante-natal appointments; no justifying the reason to an OB for an ELCS (because she won't be puffing, panting and pushing this baby out); all the help she needs post-baby. No money worries.

I don't want to hear/read about the pregnancy, either.

YANBU.

Tess -Other sufferers are not given the same treatment - I was very ill and told to get on with it. I was ill for the whole of the pg and finally got medical help after 9 months cos no one believes how bad it is. I had to go to work too and was laughed at by my colleagues as I spent most of my time in the loo but couldn't afford to be on SSP. At least Kate doesn't have to worry about anything else and is being pampered

sorry shd say 8 mo

i would say the nhs have treated me and my HG extreamly well

never have i been told to get on with it

a couple of weeks ago i saw a dr 7 times in 9 days.... i am often in daily and told to come back tomorrow. i am "allowed" drugs

and have been well looked after when ive needed to be admitted too, with kind sympathetic drs who have got on with making better.

im very greatful for the way nhs have dealt with me.

i was signed off at 6weeks last time, and never went back

tbh i couldnt have made it to work regardless,

I feel sorry for Kate. I remember having a very bad reaction to morphine once and being really really nauseous in hospital for days and days and not able to keep anything down and feeling soooo miserable and uncomfortable. So I can only imagine what it must be like to know you could be facing months of that.

Re the minute by minute accounts of the pregnancy, I agree that kind of thing can get very irritating. But the media wouldn't do it if there wasn't an audience for it. Some people seem to live vicariously through the royal family. You can bet your bottom dollar that some people will have their knitting needles out already while aome expectant mothers will be waiting with bated breath to see what kind of cot/buggy/car seat Kate and William choose so that they can rush out and slavishly copy them.

Vickibee - as I said in my first post on this thread, my best friend had HG during both her pregnancies, and she received exceptional NHS care.

I guess it's the postcode lottery.

That still shouldn't be used as stick to beat Kate with, when she is suffering.

Sorry that she is ill as I would be if it were any other woman, that saying, it does tend to push more newsworthy stories into the background.