To not want a minute by minute account of Kate's pregnancy and little sympathy for her.

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She's rich, she has all the support in the world and will have no cooking, cleaning, vocational work or responsibilities. I really really really do not want to have daily updates on her condition or her pregnancy for the next nine months! It's so typical of everything she stands for that they have already announced she will have to be on rest for the foreseeable future. As opposed to doing what exactly??!

My best friend had HG and lost a stone in 8 days. She went to hospital and was told to pull her herself together as most women had morning sickness. No time off work, no help whatsoever.

I read the papers Turkey, it's not especially hard. Perhaps I was in Cambridge? I havent actually said I find the whole thing tiresome. I do find Kate and Pippa themselves utterly tiresome but it doesn't stop me reading about their antics and their latest execrable foray into the literary world. Or the latest Eton boyfriend. Not at all.

Is it so very hard for people to get that so far I haven't 'wished ill' on Kate nor have lots of other posters accused of the same. I don't see a necessary nexus between wishing her ill and expressing the opinion that she seems very dull (and workshy).The important thing here is to hope that an ordinary, though unpleasant, symptom of early pregnacy isn't being dollied up to give respectability to a hospital admission. That would be very unfair on proper sufferers, of which she might or might not be one. We'll see, obviously.

So, the papers now have 24/7 coverage do they?

Yes Pagwatch, I meant it's ridiculous not to be able to state that demonstrable point without people jumping on one saying it's spite.

Pickled I most certainly don't wat her on my CCTV. Dreadful idea. I simply read the Telegraph and the Guardian and sometimes the DC show me more extreme stuff from the Mail.

want, not wat.

Oh ffs Turkey they say what her engagements are on which day and for how long and then they eulogise about the silly girl and the themed outfits and her nude shoes. Etc.

If she manages to work her sickness around those engagements then it comes back to the same thing - relatively speaking, she's doing pretty well. Most hg sufferers couldn't do that.

YABU, that's mean.

I personally do not give a flying fruit about the monarchy. It's all decoration. But she's still human :/

MissElleTow: The first day he can have off is 01/03/13

You need to tell your husband to report to your Welfare Officer or PSF.

COS Air stated quite categorically that ALL RAF personnel are to take Xmas stand-down AD 20 Dec to FP 3 Jan. They are to be granted an Extra 4 days on top of their yearly leave allowance and that period is to be the minimum that they take. All the RAF personnel I have working for me at the moment are taking 3 weeks - some days from their own leave card, the rest granted.

If you want me to send you a copy of the Order I am more than happy to - just PM me. Your husband could then take it in to his bosses and demand the time off.

I hope that helps

And there was never a moment where she was out of the pubic eye then. Wow.

But I don't pay attention to what they're up to in the small detail you appear to. I'm more than capable of taking her current illness at face value given that it makes not difference when she stated throwing up. She is a short way into a very publioc first pregnancy and she is ill with HG/severe morning sickness. When she has not an ounce of fat reserves to see her through.

Does it matter whether she'd been suffering for 2 days or less? No.

Other people have said HG can come on very very quickly so she could have been out playing jolly hockey sticks whilst feeling nauseous on Friday and throwing up spectacularly by Saturday evening.

I am no huge Royal fan, I am indifferent. I like the image Kate & William portray - that of a young couple firmly in love. I feel very sorry for Kate that she has to go through what must be a pretty shit time so publicly, just as I'd feel very sorry for a mother-at-school to have to deal with it.

LtEve so what provision is there now in Germany for pregnant wives? What's the furthest distance between the patch and the maternity hospital? Let's hope that it's down from 90km. You seem to know about this stuff. Perhaps your thing is employment rather than provision for wives, I can't tell, obviously.

Turkey, absolutely the only point about how long she's been sick is that she hasn't been sick for that long. So she hasn't been suffering that long. It's clear that the onset of both morning sickness and hg can occur in a trice.

Incidentally, how do you know they're in love? He chucked her once didn't he? They might be having massive rows away from the camera? Are they on your CCTV 24/7 ? :)

But the drama really began when Kate went to stay with her parents on Friday after a visit to her former preparatory school, St Andrew?s, just a few minutes? drive away.

At the time, she had appeared in rude health, even taking to the hockey pitch in her high-heeled boots for a quick knock-about with students.

William had been spending the first part of the weekend privately with friends at a shooting party that Kate, for now obvious reasons, had declined to join.

When he finally met up with his wife, however, he became increasingly concerned at her condition ? particularly her inability to keep down any food or water.

On Monday afternoon, fearing she could become dehydrated which could prove a risk to both her and their baby, and after consulting their doctor by phone, he decided drive her to London in their Range Rover

So, she felt ill on Friday after the hockey thing, couldn't keep down food or water by the evening and was in hospital by Monday. By my reckoning that counts as suffering for days.

And I now need to wash my hands after googling her and reading the Mail :o

yellow what part of hg coming on exceedingly quickly do you not get? yes she was fine on fri but a lot can change in 24-48hrs with hg.

god it can with any sickness bugbactually. my ds2 was fine on sat, sun eve we had to contact ooh dr he was so poorly. same happened to him.once before with a sickness bug and he needed a drip.

hg is awful and strikes quickly. you say its not spite but why so vehemently contest that she has it? you are essentially making out she is fine and being a drama queen/making a fuss. pretty sure that even people with private healthcare wont get admitted to hospital unless necessary.

Appear to be in Love then. TBH it's fairly clear from the way they interact with each other or at least as clear as these things are. The contrast between them and a couple who clearly were not in love is striking.

Yellow what would you know?

on Friday 23rd November i was having a good day HG wise, and for the first time in 5 weeks ate a meal [shocj]... and felt fine for some of the day (despite having HG for 6 weeks by then)

on Monday 26th November i was admitted to hospital by my GP (having puked every hour (or more) since 10am saturday and kept nothing down) for IV because i needed it.

LtEve so what provision is there now in Germany for pregnant wives? What's the furthest distance between the patch and the maternity hospital? Let's hope that it's down from 90km. You seem to know about this stuff. Perhaps your thing is employment rather than provision for wives, I can't tell, obviously

I am a serving soldier, and a soldiers wife, and a mum!

Most of BFGermany is now closed down. Those units that are left are in towns with their own hospitals. All military and their dependants/partners are treated by the Regimental Medical Centres or in German Civilian Hospitals. All German Civilian Hospitals in the area of a military base etc have a Liaison Officer employed within it to ensure care/security/translation etc is not compromised.

In cases of specialised treatment the soldier/spouse/dependant etc will be taken to the best hospital, sometimes that will involve travelling, but that happens in UK too (ie children transferred to GOSH). When I was pregnant and when DD was born I was lucky enough to live 5 minutes from the best Kindertensive Department in North Germany, so she and I were treated there. My friend lived 30 minutes away but was transferred to this hospital as it was the best for her and her son.

Wegberg Military Hospital, where most Service Spouses gave birth in the early 90's is long gone.

I hope that is clear

Sounds an improvement, for sure LtEve. I didn't have a baby in Wegberg; our nominated hospital was different. But once it was suggested I have a c-section for convenience to avoid the possibility of having a baby on the road, given the very long journey, I declined further assistance from the military doctors and put myself in the safe hands and the less money conscious hands of the Germans. They were great. Most wives just went with it. No thought for danger, childcare or any of those practical things, simply cost.

And what on earth part do you not get that I am absolutely clear the onset of morning sickness and hg can be incredibly quick. Since I've said it already in terms.

Thanks for the google Turkey. We are getting slightly semantic here, at your insistence, but I doubt William buggered off to shoot pheasants on Saturday if Kate was already very ill. She's obviously been ill Sat and Sun. Could be worse.

5mad I'm not being spiteful in that I'm not in the least unsympathetic to anyone suffering from morning sickness, let alone hg, which sounds nightmarish.

Now this is lose-lose but on the one hand I hope the spin doctors aren't exaggerating her condition, since if they are that does a great disservice to sufferers of full blown hg. But then she'll be ill for months, or having the symptoms suppressed in hospital for months, which isn't great for Kate. Or they're not exaggerating and she'll be ill for months, or having the symptoms suppressed in hospital for months.

Indeed the best outcome for Kate is that she did over-react, never having experienced morning sickness before, then she can return home and is hopefully not nauseous in eight to ten weeks time.

Probably because you wrote:

Pagwatch she might have been, but which day was it we had reports of her eating her 'favourite' pudding at her old school and giving a hockey demo in high heels? Tbh even with my ordinary morning sickness all I could do was put a pillow over my head and moan. Clearly the onset of hg can be fast, but equally clearly she has absolutely not been suffering for days. The jolly pictures are there

and

It's fairly ridiculous that a few posters can't point out the obvious fact that the reports of Kate out and about in Cambridge and Berkshire show that she has not been suffering for days. She looks as perky as a pekingese in every shot

which seem to say you don't believe she could have HG as she was too "well" on the Friday.

If that isn't what you are insinuating, the I apologise, but it is certainly how I read your posts.

You read them wrong LtEve, not quite sure how. Both explicity make one point: that she hasn't been suffering for days. That carries with it no inference that she therefore can't have hg. It raises only the possibility that, given she's not encountered even ordinary morning sickness before, she might well be taken aback by it's sudden onset and utter vileness and over-react.

This is why I hate these sorts of news stories. Not because I despise Kate, but because everyone comes crawling out of the woodwork with their 'experience' to hand.
Fuck off Kirstie

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