to have fed my baby here?

[ariane5]

Went shopping yesteerday.ds1. Jas a blu badge so we parked in a disabled space.went to shops and back to car couple of hours later. We have 4 dcs and the baby 7 mths started screaming and was hungry.by then the car park was packd. I started to feed ds while dh got other dcs in car and an elderly couple drove past and politely asked if we were leaving, dh said sorry not yet then 2 other drivers did the same but the fourth stopped got out and said please could we hurry up, I explained that when I had fed ds we would be going but she was really angry and said a disabled space is not just for sitting in that we should go immediately. I was only another ten mins fding ds it is hard enough going out as all dcs have same condition and ds2 was really screaming I had to feed him as it was a long drive home. Was I being unreasonable?

I'd say the OP misused the car parking space. That is she did not use the space for the purpose for which it was intended. That is to leave a car temporarily in a certain place. Therefore she was in the wrong. That's my opinion.

I think MN is a fantastic resource and support for people living with a disability and for parents with SN children. Yes, there are some horrible people out there who come and post vile things and use disablist language, but they are always challenged.

Nolittle - if you think Bedhopper and I have been rude - well, take a read back on your contributions here. I have only pulled you up on your disgracefully mocking post to bedhopper, and bedhopper has only disagreed with you. Neither of us were rude, nor mocking. You were.

AndABigBird, totally agree with your post.

IMO she did use the space and the pass to enable her to "leave her car temporarily in a certain place" - it just happens that she was in it feeding her baby which in my opinion is at least as important as shopping !

Sabrina you were, for the reasons I have stated. I have mocked no-one. you have been rude.

Which posts were so disgraceful?

JUG, but yyou don't kknow it was just shopping

You can say that NoLitlle, but unfortunately for you, the evidence is there for others to read back.

Well, apart from your posts MNHQ has deleted for breaching their guidelines, that is.

Just like you don't know she didn't need the space... If they weren't just shopping but were willing to shout at a woman breastfeeding then why did they shout at her but not explain their disability related need for the space?

But of course, NoLittle, the fact that some of your posts have been deleted speaks volumes, doesn't it?

The main problem that sabrina et al. seem to have with me is that I disagree with them and have researched my argument.

which ones - i saw 1 were deleted, and not reallly sure why tbh

nolittle - I really don't see any gain for the cause of disabilty rights here. The target you have chosen is a family including 4 children with disabilities. The difficulties their parents experience when going out with their children was part of this discussion. In what way have you empowered this family to feel able to go out with their children, your posts were undermining. Misuse of blue badges is a serious problem, there is a trade in fraudulent badges in london, people like the op's family and you who really need their badges have them stolen and sold. That is a real threat to legitimate badge holders.

I did not attack, use non Pc language or any of that so... why?

Might I again draw your attention back to the op's statement that all four children have the same condition and she was therefore attending to the needs of her disabled child, I also have it in my mind she DID state there were feeding issues because of it. Are you really so much of a pedant that you'd insist because the baby had a disability but no badge they aren't entitled to be in the space? That's what I meant by you misusing your professional knowledge and by a little knowledge I meant that your knowledge about disability law does not make you an authority on everything else nor does it make you an authority on the op's family's needs when you do not know what condition the children have. That surely is the first rule in any professional role, especially a legal one that information gathering about the facts is done before advice is given and if there isn't enough information to advise you state that and you ask for more if possible. It is unprofessional how you have behaved. It is extremely unimaginative to just come back with "I think you've behaved appallingly" when accused of behaving appallingly, the equivalent of "I know you are but what am I?"

If you are unsure of why you were deleted then you can contact MN and ask btw.

Bigmouth, ITA. A family with accessibility issues (times two) were able to do something lovely for their kids and now feel like they were doing something wrong. What a shame! OP, I'd love to see a picture of the kids with FC if you have one. It sounds like a lovely day out.

We have this huge problem of people doing things like using blue badges when the badge holder isn't even there or asking BB holders to sit in the car to make it easy for the driver to run in and do something quickly or stealing BB or using BB that belonged to dead relatives. Do we really want to lump this in with those.

As for Nolittle researching it. Put up or shut up is how I feel if people research something but won't share their sources. If you don't quote or link then they aren't relevant.

The DR point being made is that true equality only comes when people use, but don't abuse soicietal interventions to increase access and when people behave just likke anybody else. It will never come whillst people cherry pick the bits of inequallity they lllike, whilst fighting against those they don't! I am sick of repeating the fact that it wasn't just the OP I was tallking about, but wider attitudes on here too, that are condescending and patronising and not wanted by, or hellpfull to the majority.

Bedhopper you said I should feel free to ask anything I want to know so, have you been disabled all your life?

Thanks bird, so happy you thinkk it's ok to belllittlle my career lllike that --- Classy (!)

I think you've singlehandedly moved your cause backwards in that case because it appears to be all about you and your particular needs for support and how they are more important than other people's and that is not about advancing general rights, that's exploiting rights for your benefit.

It will be perfectly obvious to anyone reading this thread, that the main problem I have with NoLittle is her nasty, mocking posts towards other people on here, people like bedhopper. Mocking BB holders on here, whilst claiming to 'challenge condescension towards disability' in a professional capacity is incredibly hypocritical.

Oh, and of course, gleefully admitting that s/he's using this thread for 'sport' and finding it 'fun'.

She's certainly shown her true colours on this thread.

Offered, I am not on here in my capacity, just MO same as you!

Thought you were claiming to be here in a professional capacity a few posts ago?

So have you sabrina, I notice you won't tell me which posts you have a probllem with, and there you go mocking what I do for a living again!