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To find it quite amusing how some people try to make out their average child is a genius?

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MiketheKnight · 26/11/2012 08:40

I've known a couple of people like this over the years but at the moment I have one friend in particular who does this loads, and tries to make everyone else convinced he is too.

I met her at a baby group. There are 8 of us all with DCs the same age (3). I have two older children too. She in convinced her DS is more intelligent than the other children in the group. She often does a round-robin type text to us all saying a question or statement her son is meant to have said, usually involving a very complicated word such as preposterous. And if he asks a question when we are at the group, as many of the 3 year olds do, she starts asking us if we heard his question, and saying what a clever question it was, then she answers questions using a very lengthy reply during which time he has generally walked off to play and doesn't listen anyway. Latest thing is her asking on her Facebook status if anyone knows any private tutors that will tutor a 3 year old as he is apparently marvellously curious about maths and science. And I've never known such a fuss over finding a school for a child. She's talked about nothing else for months and apparently it's far more difficult for her than anyone else as they have to be very careful about where they send their child.

I'd say that he is probably quite average, and very similar to the rest of the children in the group, including my DS. His speech just seems normal for a 3 year old, he walked at the same time as the other children, potty trained at a similar time. I never hear any of these wonderful anecdotes of speech that she writes about in texts when we meet up, and his speech whenever I see him is just the same as the other childrens' speech. He talks well, as they all seem to in the group, but certainly not like a child prodigy.

I know we are all proud of her children and think they are geniuses but she really does cross the line between thinking it and making a bit of an idiot of herself.

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OkayHazel · 26/11/2012 13:50

Strikes me as the kind of mum who's child 'is at university in Oxford'.

Yeah love, Oxford Brookes University, not Oxford. Good grief.

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Rudolphstolemycarrots · 26/11/2012 13:53

shes probably a mixture of a little bit insecure about her parenting and totally head over heals with her child and amazed at every little thing he does.

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Acepuppets · 26/11/2012 14:22

The major problem when labeling a child as a genius is that they don't develop a good work ethic and start to flounder when they have reached their level. We need to encourage children and celebrate their successes but also keep them down to earth so they become rounded human beings.

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Lilymaid · 26/11/2012 15:26

Okayhazel - I once shared an office with a woman who claimed she went to Cambridge. It turned out that she had been at a teacher training college 20 miles from Cambridge whose two year certificates in education (this was years ago) were approved by the University of Cambridge. But she still told people "When I was at Cambridge ..."

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laptopdancer · 26/11/2012 15:32

We have one like this. The sad thing is, she has also convinced the child he is extra brilliant and that school and other kids are boring and beneath him. She recently told me that in a teacher interview, the child told the teacher 1) he was bored and 2) to not pair him with a certain other child for work as it "just wont work". Now I have strong views on the concept of smart kids and the concept of being bored but thats another story.

Anyway...I recently did a day in the classroom and noticed that this child wasnt anywhere near any cleverer than any of the others and that he had an inability to accept he was wrong when he was, indeed so. I also noted there was an atmosphere between him and the teacher as he was quite rude to her for most of the day.

Long story short, I think some of these parents could be heading their chikldren for a fall.

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wordfactory · 26/11/2012 15:43

We have a genius in our extended family. His mother is convinced of it.

Unfortunately over the years his potential has remained unfullfilled due to poor teachers, poor schools, poor reading schemes, poor marking schemes...I recall one lunch where she trued to convince DH that the problem lay wiht the lack of drinking water during class. If only the boy could quench his thirst we'd all see how brilliant he was.

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blisterpack · 26/11/2012 15:54

Yy to that lapdancer. A relative took her child to a load of schools for admission and was telling me about it. She said the child didn't like X school. I asked why, and child cut in "Oh I hated that stupid school. They don't have a test". She was FIVE Shock. Clearly the mother had been telling her that good schools select children based on tests. Mum was beaming with pride.

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sue52 · 26/11/2012 15:55

Reminds me of the time when I took my then 2 year old to tumble tots. One of the other mothers tried to tell the teacher that her boy needed private lessons because of his advanced athletic skills and by saying no tothe idea, the teacher was denying Britain a future Olympic Gold medal. I thought it was odd as to my knowledge,there are no Olympic events involving large bits of soft foam and giant sheets.

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Acepuppets · 26/11/2012 16:05

I agree Lapdance - an intelligent child would never get bored because they would find learning opportunities everywhere. I would understand a bored child who had completed an excellent 100% accurate piece of work, unfortunately a lot of very 'intelligent' ]wink]bored kids seem to hide their talent extremely well.

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Acepuppets · 26/11/2012 16:06

Hey obviously i'm not intelligent Wink

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Perspective21 · 26/11/2012 17:40

YANBU, let her continue to make herself look ridiculous. Have popped across from the SN boards to say I have two DDs who have been on Gifted and Talented register and also have a young son with Down's Syndrome. He is only just becoming verbal at 3 years so people would say he has developmental delays, however this boy shines with an emotional intelligence that you have to witness in action to believe...a gentle reminder for all that there is more than IQ involved in being gifted....

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misscomanche · 26/11/2012 19:11

I recently read an interview with Alicia Keys that amused me greatly- apparently she writes songs with her 2 year old son, and he has been composing his own from 6 months old Hmm Also, he is learning Mandarin because he is very advanced

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BillyBollyBallum · 26/11/2012 19:19

Hear hear Perspective

Being happy is what matters, not academia.

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Geranium3 · 26/11/2012 19:23

oh i know someone just like that! She phoned me when her ds was a few days old to tell me that when he was only 2days old he was trying to roll over and the nurses told her that they had never ever seen a newborn baby do it before!!! Wow! How could my dd ever compete with such a genius!!

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FunBagFreddie · 26/11/2012 19:25

I think it's sweet that parents could think so much of their DC's in a way. It's still funny though. Grin

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carabos · 26/11/2012 19:27

Agree with noblegiraffe's comments about big fish and small ponds. DS1 was at the local vg catholic primary and we were summoned by the Head and the parish priest and told that he was very bright and we should apply to a very famous catholic boarding school in our county for a scholarship.

We didn't want him to board but did act on their advice and he went to a local independent with a bursary. However, he took a full year to settle, got way behind in his work and was miserable and overwhelmed. He wasn't special as everyone had to pass a stiff exam to get in so he became a little fish in a big pond.

He eventually turned it around, did ok, went to a good uni, but took a big knock to his confidence on the way.

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Saski · 26/11/2012 19:30

This touches a nerve. I think this has reached epidemic proportions amongst people I socialize with.
I do try to be a courteous conversationalist when out and about, and in doing so, I've become an unwitting foil for people's monologues about their children. I am so fed up. I do not want to pay a babysitter to go to dinner and listen to people talk endlessly about how intelligent their children are.
I kind of long for how the 70's might have been, when my parents didn't even bother to notice, much less discuss me with friends, past the hour of 7pm.

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KittyFane1 · 26/11/2012 19:43

Dawndonna :(

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cocolepew · 26/11/2012 20:23

When my DD was in her first school christmas play she was picked to play Mary. I heard from soneone who worked at the school there were some parents trying to get their DDs the part. What they didn't realise was she was given the part because it was non speaking. DD had severe speech delay.

She is now 14 and seems bright enough, predicted to have A* on her exams, but seems incapable of putting her dirty washing in the basket Hmm

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AlphabetiSpaghetti · 26/11/2012 20:51

Well, my son points to a picture of a sheep and says 'baa' he is clearly a genius. the fact he says this to every picture of an animal is entirely beside the point

Grin

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harbingerofdoom · 26/11/2012 21:33

I agree with Journey. My DDs have academic GParents,one a teacher,one a Professor. It was quite normal to talk about science all day long.

Only my neighbours and close family know that one DD really is 'at' Oxford and the other is brilliant in her field (Russel).

I think you just shut up when you realise and hope that you can help them.

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bondigidum · 26/11/2012 22:40

One of the many reasons I left facebook.

I had a 'friend' on there who just seemed so conpetitive. I'm not sure if she was bragging, genuinely thought her kid was a genius or was just unaware of how much she went on about her 'achievements' and just thought she was sharing them with us all. She was very quick to let everyone know how her DD took her first steps at 10 months (but then she didn't actually walk until 14 months like my DS born two weeks earlier), crawled at like 4 months, was eating a whole banana at 6 months. Oh I lost track. The way a child develops is nothing to do with them being clever or 'advanced', its simply temperament and genetics so this whole 'my kid can say 40 words and he's only 15 months, he must be a genius' is just nonsense. Guaranteed all the other kids their age will have caught up in a year or two and will be on the exact same level.

Einstein, lets not forget, didn't speak until he was four. I do actually believe many true geniuses keep it all stored up there. They know exactly how to do everything, they just don't see a logical need to prove it to people. They're understated shall we say.

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MrsMangelfanciedPaulRobinson · 26/11/2012 23:07

I agree with you there bondigidum; a true genius has absolutely nothing to prove! And neither do their parents!

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FunBagFreddie · 26/11/2012 23:24

Looking back at the the most intelligent people I knew when I was younger one lad stood out. I truly believe he was a genius, but he didn't fit in and ended up with a really bad drugs problem. In fact a majority of the most intelligent people I knew at school became involved in drugs.

I've never fathomed why, maybe they just got bored more easily than I did.

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ZebraOwl · 27/11/2012 01:17

It genuinely disturbs me just how much some people push their children to try to be able to claim they are Exceptional. Tinies having tutoring & doing a squillion Extras - at which they are all, naturally, brilliant.

Sadly it's not limited to parents - I [have] know[n] vastly too many people who want to be Special. It is mind-numbingly tedious to listen to people bend the truth into the shape that suits them. I'm sure in lots of adults it is down to confidence issues etc, but it is still irksome. Particularly when they start trotting out the excuses as to how it is, despite their brilliance, they do not immediately SEEM remarkable: worst of all is when they explain how it is you might appear to be better than them at something but that is in fact not at all the case. shudders

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