to think Rotherham council have lost the plot over UKIP foster-carers?

[londonone]

bbc

I really really hope there is more to this than is being reported, otherwise I am utterly speechless.

Just out of interest Cozy should Derby social services be sacked too?

Glitterknickaz - it wouldn't be a mumsne political thread if someone didn't try and relate it to disability! Surprised you didn't manage to shoehorn in the fact that DLA is not an out of work benefit,

Things have gone wrong in the past with children in care. They have the childrens best interest at heart. The council is just being careful, I cannot blame them for that.

"It is not clear from this report whether UKIP was deemed out of bounds in principle, or whether in this particular case the couple's expression of their political views was problematic. I have to say I'm not convinced that voting UKIP is incompatible with foster care. But fervent, vocal and uncompromising allegiance to the extreme end of those views might well be."

Absolutely.

Jesus - so will UKIP help getting all the ex pats back to the uk then?

You do realise that immigrants don't get give handfulls of gov cash as a rule? They can get benefit if they from an UE member state - as can Brits in those countries ...

I would not want to see vulnerable children fostered by people who didn't want them in the UK - that is unlikely to be a nice welcoming environment

and what Mrs DV said really.

Just pointing out the context of UKIP beliefs.
Someone else brought up the vision of 'quality' communities.
Whether that be on grounds of race, ability or lack of it.
Gives a sense of the ideology going on there.

Narked - did you not understand the question as you seem to be having a problem answering!

Glitterknickaz

"Full of quality?"

I assume that is directed at me.

Australia recruits immigrants based on it's needs. This is a normal immigration policy. it doesn't want people with skills it doesn't need, or no skills or people who are too old. They are looking after their own interests.

Why is this impossible for us without being deemed racist?

"So a better solution would be to offer no assistance in their language at all? That would encourage integration would it?"

Life is too short to offer assistance to people who won't read. So I won't dignify this with an answer. intelligent readers will understand the contrasting positions the example was intended to illustrate.

what a child should be made to feel less equal then action taken how many children have to feel this way beforee action is taken

Makes far more sense that action is taken before by not allowing people to get the chance to project their hatred onto innocent people especially children

I think head teachers are allowed to sack a teacher if theynfind out they are a Member of the bnp, i am not sure i hope this is right i would rather that membership to such parties would be banned in some professions especially dealing with children

Those of you who think that this is 'thought crime', do grow up. It isn't. It's about matching the right children with the family that is appropriate for them. Legal advice was taken. That would be impartial legal advice. Taken and followed. Yes there are times that the law is an ass (Guildford four and Birmingham six will always spring to mind). However, why put non uk children with people who support a party that have openly suggested repatriation? That isn't thought crime, that's a serious protection issue. If you are unable to see that, then obviously, you have a problem.

Ooh.... ageism there too. UKIP, party of isms then.

Murder of goths- a better solution would be to provide English lessons and ensure people attend them.

From what the head of children's services said on the bbc ws, I don't think they were ruled out on principle, just for these particular childre, but that doesn't fit the 'oh we're so discriminated against' vibe that some people like to play on

I don't think I can have got anything right, OP, when I am just asking questions.

I do personally think UKIP are guilty of a gormless policy statement error on 'the doctrine of multiculturalism', not unusual with a relatively inexperienced political party.

If UKIP had stuck with 'leaving the EU for economic reasons' there would be no issue today to discuss.

FFS glitter, life with you must be one long line of offence at 'isms.

Do you suggest we fill this island with the worlds oldies too? We are having such a success with our own.

Oh dear glitter you must find he entire Australian nation ageist in that case.

Freudian - who would you have decide which views are acceptable and which aren't?

And who pays for all this altruism glitter?

You can so tell who works in the private sector in this thread.

MurderOfGoths

So a better solution would be to offer no assistance in their language at all? That would encourage integration would it?

How do you encourage integration by ensuring that a migrant can't speak English?

A better solution would be to require all migrants except successful asylum seeker claimants to pass an English test and to make that a mandatory part of being here.

Can't believe you're arguing that ensuring it isn't necessary to learn English in the UK promotes cohesion.

The irony of this is that I'd bet that the foster parents are disenfranchised Labour supporters who feel betrayed and let down by Labour. And precisely because of this sort of thing.

Line runner that is what I meant I was agreeing with you and el burro that they are a single issue party and the rest of te policies are a bit of an afterthought

It's not about offence. It's about being aware of some of the ignorance and hate that is doled out to some of the more vulnerable in society.

It's about accepting the people of this country for who they are not in terms of 'what they can contribute' which is entirely subjective anyway.

Glitterknickaz - it wouldn't be a mumsne political thread if someone didn't try and relate it to disability! Surprised you didn't manage to shoehorn in the fact that DLA is not an out of work benefit
Did you mean to be quite so rude, OP?

I bet you can't pessrypam!