to think Rotherham council have lost the plot over UKIP foster-carers?

[londonone]

bbc

I really really hope there is more to this than is being reported, otherwise I am utterly speechless.

MrsDeVere

"I think that most Turkish and Greek people would beg to differ london
Or do you think they look the same so therefore are pretty much of a muchness? "

Cheap shot, try harder.

So Turkish and Greek people need separate hair salons do they?

well either people are allowed to hold political views AND foster , or they aren't. This is what the Rotherham council seems to be suggesting.

So , what should we infer from this decision:

• that you are allowed to foster but only if you are completely apolitical?

-that you are allowed to foster but only if you hold political views which are left wing?

-that you are only allowed to foster children of the same ethnicity as you?

-that children of non white/British ethnicities should only be fostered by lefties?

• that people who are right wing shouldn't be allowed to foster?

-that anyone who fosters should be prepared to have their political views scrutinised and judged by social workers?

-that social workers and officials involved in the fostering process hold political views which are the 'right' ones?

-that all social workers and officials involved in the fostering process should all be left wing?

I agree with previous posters who have described this as a thought crime. It is completely crazy. And also, those of you condemning members of political groups who don't really understand all that group's policies, it happens ALL THE TIME. Plus there are plenty of parents who are loving and supportive - ie great , normal parents - who , politically, are as thick as pigshit.

So if Australia needs a point system to accept immigrants and it's a democratic country does that mean it's populated by racists? Because this is where you are heading with your arguments.

There are plenty of deprived parts of Islington but even those are much closer to centres of economic activity and cultural amenities than deprived areas in the north like Rotherham. I'm well acquainted with both and the benighted post-industrial towns of the north are infinitely more wretched than almost anywhere in London. And "multi-culturalism" looks a lot different from there, I can tell you. I'm pretty sure the views of these foster carers were fairly representative of their area, so the irony is, the move will probably not have cured the "problem" these idiots masquerading as social workers were trying to deal with.

donnie

And they wonder why so many people are put off fostering and adopting. So glad I could have children and not have to go through this awful system.

No mrsdevere but I am asking if you think there shouldbe open borders? Because unless you do you also believe in controlled immigration, the only difference is degree

KarlosKKrinkelbeim the foster carers have been so badly let down, I hope they sue the council.

they could always appeal to the European Court of human rights.
Oh wait....

really. Then you are misunderstanding hatred and political views. Members of the bnp and edl dislike more often hate people purely because of their colour/religious background that can not be seperated at work not all the time

a teacher should not be in a position where they feel they are superior to their pupils because they are white but that is their belief it
can not be left at home its is who they are what they feel is right

I think that when your job is 24 hour care, your views may well become apparent. I think that children, especially vunerable ones, are malleable. I think that a DC who in 8 weeks had begun calling them mum and dad would be at risk of taking any views they did hear onboard very strongly. I think that the DC will find themselves exposed to anti immigration views in the street and the playground, so it's not a topic that won't come up at home.

And what Shallishanti said.

UKIP policy for anyone who's interested.

Return people found to be living illegally in the UK to their country of origin. There can be no question of an amnesty for illegal immigrants. Such amnesties merely encourage further illegal immigration

So yes, they do want to deport children and their parents.

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MrsDevere, could there ever be too much immigration for you?

So you mean a hair salon that can be used by anyone? Like an Indian takeaway or a polish deli as you put it. Or a corner shop or a car wash! I really don't understand what your point is because everything you talk about takes place in countries with fairly strict immigration regimes. Go to melbourne or new York and have a look round!

Donnie, the children in question are definitely white.

Completely agree Karlos - have lived in many of the areas that Mrs DeVere is talking about but am originally from the north. London is a completely different world to places like Rotherham - yes the multiculturism makes London a great city but it is naive to think that the rest of the country is remotely like that. And as you mention, in London if you are hard working you have achance, whoever you are.

No Freudian you are misunderstanding what being a professional is.

What MRsDeVere is describing is not really multiculturalism, it is the ability to enjoy facets of various different cultures. All very attractive and reasonable, but multiculturalism, as proposed by various local authorities, is far more insidious.

"So yes, they do want to deport children and their parents."
Of illegal immigrants. This is hardly an extreme view, is it?

Narked do you believe in unlimited immigration ? Mrs devere for example should be happy with hat part of the policy as those are illegal immigrants under the current system and she believes the current system to be about right!

"but multiculturalism, as proposed by various local authorities, is far more insidious"

Oh do enlighten us..

I agree that London is an example if how things should work in lots of ways.