to think Rotherham council have lost the plot over UKIP foster-carers?

[londonone]

bbc

I really really hope there is more to this than is being reported, otherwise I am utterly speechless.

I can see the councils point. They said that it was not a good pairing. They didnt say that because they supported Ukip the couple cant foster at all.

no i would not be happy with edl or bnp members being allowed to foster

or teach, work within the police, work within law or any job where they thy have influence or make decisions over peoples health, security, education

Narked given that it was an emergency short term placement it is even more reason for them not to have been removed and subject to more change.

Mrs devere all of what you described about your day could and does take place in countries that have more controlled immigration than the uk. There is a world of difference between being anti immigration and anti uncontrolled immigration.

Why am I not surprised by your answer Cozy9.

And at the idea of any local council not being cowed by the views of both the government and their party leader.

These children were in emergency foster care, not with a permanent fostering family. When children are going to be placed with a permanent family, other issues will need to be taken into account. I find it concerning how many politicians are demanding an investigation. Much better that this time, money and energy was spent in preventing children being taken into the care system in the first place, paying foster carers a better rate for their work and training them.

I'm sure they were cowed by the views of the PM and Labour leader. But there;s a good reason why the opposing party leaders are united in condemning the council. Because they are fucking dangerous lunatics.

if you are a member of the bnp or edl you are a racist you beleive you are superior because you are white this will be projected onto others and will if can used against others

and yes i know there are some asian/black members of the bnp that are trotted out time and time again who are sadly very misguided

ukip stance may not be quite as racist but many from the far right (and i do not mean tory) have now joined because they see that they may have some politicla power that the bnp have thankfully not been able to reach

Those of you who think that children should be taken from these foster parents Do you think any labour voting foster parents should not be allowed to foster Iraqi children. As you clearly promote bombing and killing them and their country.

Freudianslipper - I find that deeply disturbing. The moment people let their political views impact on their work then by all means take action but to forbid people who are members of legal political parties from holding certain jobs is wrong. If you believe these parties are so abhorrent then by all means campaign to have them made illegal but until they are membership of a political party Should not be a bar to employment

If I want to know the time, I look at my watch. I don't need to know the inner workings of it to be able to see what the time is.

You are hardly objective in this matter as being an vehement supporter of multiculturalism, and from Islington, no less!

Mrs DV
Cozy, Orwellian and Flatpack will all jump in with their twopennarth, as indeed they have. It is comment, rarely based on the facts of any particular case.
It has been pointed out time and again that UKIP are jumping a bandwagon, yet again. But then that's what they do, isn't it.

Narked - if Rotherham council have been 'cowed' or caved into Gove and Milliband in reversing their decision, what does that say about their ability to act in the best interests of the children?

Surely if they really believed that removing the kids was actually the right thing to do then they should stick to that and resist the pressure.

But as has been pointed out by others, the record of Rotherham council in looking after the best interests of vulnerable kids is appalling. This is just another chapter.

MrsDeVere is right, Cozy, when she talks of babies not going to children's homes. These days babies and younger children are placed with foster carers. There are few children's homes left, and these are small (5 or 6 bedrooms), for older children, either for asessment or for where a foster placement has broken down.

I actually feel sorry for Social Services today. They've done the right thing and are now being roasted.

MrsDeVere are you a member of a political party?

And it's not about voting. It's about party membership. The vast majority of the people in the UK aren't members of any political party. It's a condition they agreed to when they started fostering.

Narked, the right thing to do would have been to ask the children if they were happy with their placement and if they were to do nothing.

How is it 'the right thing to do' to remove the children where they feel safe and secure during a very traumatic time in their lives.

Mrsdevere - west Indian immigrants were invited and encouraged to come here, people fleeing war are refugees or asylum seekers so treated differently there is plenty of scope for wide ranging immigration without it being unlimited. No one is saying UKIP speak for you. I am assuming that you think there should be no limits on any sort of immigration? If so fair enough, but it is not terrible for people to disagree with you.

What is the average house price in Islington, Mrs Devere? Average earnings? Do you really think it is representative of the country as a whole? Have you ever been to Rotherham?

By the waymrs devere what the hell is a Greek hair salon? Is it in fact a hair salon with owners of Greek origin or is it solely for the use of Greek people?