To detest children in need?

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The show that takes my precious eastenders away from me NOT what it stands for.
The whole terry Wogan/gabby roslin thing makes me want to rip my eyes out ..
I don't need to watch a bunch of non slebs doing shit to know what's happening in the world.
However I do give a good wedge every year... I'm not a total fucker!

as it happens I forgot the cash, so for me it certainly wasn't compulsory. We were supposed to pay for non uniform

it wasn't just pjs, the kids all baked cakes this week, and at home time each child (on front of the class) asked their parents to buy them off them. Hardly voluntary is it?

IMO charity isn't really charity unless its totally willingly done and voluntary.

The kids haven't learnt anything about needy people though this BTW. would prefer if they went out and did something for the community

Sorry, I was responding to stinks.

I want to know how much money each of the 'clebs' have given for having their moment of publicity.

People like Chris Evans have enough spare to keep buying cars and bridges...couldn't he give that money if it's such a worthy cause instead of asking people like me who are financially strapped? He surely only needs one car.

Some clebs have so much they don;t know what to spend it on next!

Nobody has to give to the schools if they choose not to. Send your kid in in pyjamas anyway and if you don't want to give, don't do it. They can't force you. Our school just asks for "a coin", so no embarrassment for those who don't want to pay.

tufty is TW really your dad?

I wouldn't mind if it was just the TV thing, then you COULD just change the channel. But it's like that Catherine Tate sketch at work and in schools, people should just give what they want to to who they want to, pressuring others to support the same cause that they are in this way is annoying

(tufty the pjs weren't an anonomous collection box, the kids were sent home with sponsorship forms so it can be seen who gave what (or not)

How clever of you to detest CIN.

It's big in my children's school because last year a mum from the school was on it. She was appealing because her son had died at our local childrens hospice.

Our headmaster wants to raise all he can for that hospice. He is heartbroken that boy.

Hospices aren't funded by the government, so let's stop being CIN haters and think how much that service is worth, and give them a ring tonight.

Yes jinsei.

I watched about 2 minutes of it and heard Terry Wogan say to Aled Jones (I think it was Aled Jones) 'now you can go to the dressing room where we'll ply you with fair maidens and alcohol'. Really! Is he so out of touch with what's going on a the moment?

Mynewmoniker, how do you know that Chris Evans doesn't give loads of money to charity already,and why should he only have one car loads of families have more than one. Are rich people only allowed to spend money on good and righteous things while the rest of us can treat ourselves to what we consider luxuries because we aren't as rich ?

I like CIN and the newreaders dancing etc. I find the segments really sad and can tug at the heart strings but if it makes my children think a little bit more about how others lives aren't as good as theirs then that's all good imo.

Tufty I've read that he's your dad before, several times. Then I always promptly forget.

Fwiw I'm very jealous- not because he's famous or anything like that, but just because he seems like the loveliest kind of dad

I agree that people should just give what they want to, but if you don't want to give, just say no. There's no need to feel guilty if you genuinely can't afford it, and there's no need to feel guilty if you can afford it but you'd rather give the money to another cause. Where's the pressure?

I never find it hard to say no to charity collectors because I know that I already give what I can afford to the causes that I consider worthy. If I say no, it's because I would prefer to donate the money elsewhere or because I simply can't part with the cash. Either way, my conscience is clear. If other people want tocollect for a cause that I can't support though, I just wish them luck with it - I see no reason to get annoyed by it.

Well in that case your er, enthusiasm for cin makes a bit more sense tufty!

Wow tufty . I love him - I like the fact that he's been around for as long as i can remember. My DSis and I used to love prancing around to the floral dance when we were kids.

The Eurovision isn't the same now without him.:(

Bossybritches - CIN raised about £46 million last year. The government raised in the region of £600 billion. I.e. it is a drop in the ocean - less than 100th of 1%.

I don't agree that no government could ever contribute 100th of 1% more of its budget to children.

i would much rather pay tax (and find ways to make sure that companies like Starbuvks pay tax) than go in for telethons.

please someone delete this thread as all the posters are morons.
its not good that we can say this, its just wrong. don't be so condesinding.
someone please delete this thread as I am completely embarressed to be a member of mumsnet.
A lot of the posters should be ashamed.

I would love to pay more tax if it meant that the government actually provided all the services that were needed and took children out of poverty etc. Much better than relying on telefilms, undoubtedly.

But the government isn't going to do that, is it? On the contrary, the current lot seem committed to tipping more and more children into poverty. So my preference is somewhat beside the point, isn't it?

Who is going to help those families while the politicians get their acts together? Are they supposed to just sit and wait? Or do we hope that charities will step in and fill the gap? I know what I think.

Telefilms? Telethons, obviously!

I hate the show it's garbage. Lots of celebs endorsing their latest hint with a good dose of guilt. I have no problem with raising money for children in need but not this way. I always give though just couldn't,t watch

Hospices (children's and adult's) have never been government funded.

So what do we do? Take the mick about nights like tonight and keep our fingers crossed behind our backs that it doesn't happen to us?

I'm not that keen on the show myself and don't bother watching much, but I think it encourages some people to give, so there is a value to it.

Oh FFS. CIN may not be ideal but, the fact is, a lot of people for whom 'charity' would not be on their radar, donate because of it. As I said on another thread, I don't give a shit 'why' people give for those less fortunate, I'm just glad that they do. WRT the celebs, it's up to their conscience, but I genuinely believe that Chris Evans enjoys his wealth and actively gives because he is in a position to do so and really gives a fuck about those who have not has the breaks he has.