to be fuming at stupid woman on the radio! She reckons CS are the easy option!

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was listening to a woman on the radio who has had 7 kids. She thinks that women who opt for pain relief during labour are weak and should just 'get on with it'. She said epidurals and c sections are the easy option.

FWIW an emcs saved both mine and my baby's life. I went in with the attitude that I'd like to give birth naturally with maybe a bit of gas and air ... how wrong I was!

And recovering from an emcs is hell on earth!

AIBU to think that women like that do nothing for woman-kind whatsoever and shouldn't judge or make stupid comments on how women give birth.

Grrrrrrr!

There is no way YABU. Good for here, who honestly gives a flying you know what how she gave birth. After seven children she probably didn't even need to sneeze to get them out, it's probably like the entrance to the Blackwall Tunnel after all

Bitchy mode off.....

I don't think that there is the need to add to the myth that women's bits get bigger, the more sex thst they have, or how many times that they give birth, tbh.

I hate all of the sexist language around women's bodies, used to get us to 'behave', in a certain way, according to an agenda.

This woman has her own agenda, or issues, there is no reason to add another one.

YANBU... but... am EL CS (especially a private one) is possibly the easy option.

I have had two El CS. Both at the Portland.

Most important thing I needed to consider was what music I wanted played and what I wanted for breakfast.

In both cases, I was driving after around a week. With DD (2nd) I was out in 2 days and Carried DD in her car seat to the car.

El CS are very different to Em CS.

You aren't being unreasonable, at all, as el CS are not (AFAIK) available on the NHS, but a good El CS is a doddle.

she sounds like fool, i have had 5, all natural deliveries, but i am just grateful that i and my babies were fine, i had good 'easy' births and am thankful for that. a c section was my worst nightmare, the idea of it being an 'easy' option?!! madness.

i am sure for some people it does seem easier than a normal birth i e they have a very traumatic vaginal birth and then a planned section next time and yes it may seem easier in comparison.

but all women and all births are different, but i would think that major surgery is never an easy option, ffs preg and birth however you do it is not easy really!

What Birdsgottafly said.

As for the woman on the radio- she's an opinionated twerp, and I expect she is such in all areas of her life.

I don't think either is easy per se (i've had 2 emcs and would choose an elcs if I have another dc)

I think for some women vb or vbac is right for them, for others cs is right for them.

I couldn't care less about experiencing birth, but some women see it as very important.

I've recently had to have an ECV (whole nother' thread give me labour any day)
If this does not work there is a high chance of me needing a section.
The idea of having to be in bed recovering from a c-section whilst having a newborn and toddler to contend with, that level of helplessness and vulnerability is terrifying. easy option my arse.

Like pointtopoint said YANBU OP - but I had 2 ELCS and it was a doddle for me.

I had both mine on the NHS because I didn't want the pain of childbirth. After the first I recovered v v easily - and I am old, fat and unfit. Though I did have a few after pains when the baby cried before feeding which were horrible.

The second one saved my life as I had an undiagnosed placenta accreta and haemorraged badly. Would have died if they weren't already inside me. Even after that and a stay in the HDU and blood transfusion etc etc I was still pushing the pram up hills and eating out at restaurants within 5 days.

I strongly believe that woman should be able to choose how they give birth and if they do want the easy way - which in my experience is an ELCS - then we should support that.

YANBU pisses me off

Actually this whole culture of competition between women about how they give birth pisses me off

I am the youngest of a large family. And the pain mother went through is disturbing

Setting aside whether CS or epidurals are an easy option or not, I don't actually understand why it's a bad thing to take the easy option? Are we supposed to take the hard option just to appease other people? Would you take the hard option in any other areas of life if given a choice?

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Also applauding thesmallprint

Never struck me for a secodn to do what was right for me and my family, regardless of whether someone else felt it was the easy option.

There's no medals, whatever way you chose to have a baby. And yes thesmallprint, that is a very good point!

i too heard this woman on the radio whilst driving.

i've had 2 DCs - one by VB using G&A which was followed by a horrendous tear and one by ELCS following an unsuccessful ECV. Of those procedures I can safely say the the CS was the least painful and least traumatic.

Recovery was much faster after the section than my VB. Its up to the individual as to how much they can tolerate and what form of pain relief they would like when giving birth. I just personally think if you start off by asking for an epidural when maybe you dont need it you dont have many more options pain relief wise. But its not up to me to judge others' choices. Thats just how it was for me.

She did sound a bit smug about it all though!

I had an emcs after a horrendous 26 hour labour with no pain relief. I was fully dilated for ages only to be wheeled into theatre. Recovery was long and painful.

I wouldn't have had an epidural if it hadn't made giving birth feel a lot easier.

What's the point in it otherwise?

And a lot of women who choose a c-section when there is no medical reason do so because they are hoping it will be easier than going through labour (given that many people who choose a c/s have had a previous vaginal birth which they have found very difficult).

I don't think anyone really chooses an emergency c/s do they? They're told they need one to get their baby safely delivered. So it's stoopid to suggest that it's a 'cop out' choice.

Where there is no sense there is no feeling. That's my diagnosis of the woman on the radio.

I had two very easy births & I bloody well know I did.

The thought of an epidural terrifies me-I can´t think that women must be anything other than desperate to have one.

As for a CS-I wouldn´t have dared to stay awake if I´d needed one.

If I ever need a tooth out I´ll be begging them to use GA

silly bloody woman i gave birth vaginally twice with every pain releif going ds 1 was born with cord wrapped around his neck three times blue and not breathing thankfully after oxygen he was fine ds 2 was a back top back baby needed ventouse[ ds1 i had stiches inside and out ouch!]after 17 hrs in delivery suite did nt have stiches that time it was ent a walk inthe park but after speaking to woman who have had emergency c setions it was ent for them either as long as babies are born safe and healthy does it matter how they are born?

YANBU, but it depends on the circumstances. My vaginally delivered DS is 3.5 & I cannot poo without involving my hands - ever - & weeing myself is just part of every day life. That isn't even the whole list. I have been diagnosed with a prolapse but so far have only been given pelvic floor exercises to improve things. Clearly it hasn't worked & I have another appointment next week.
I would expect that 3.5 years post section I would probably have recovered.
I don't think that anyone can simply say that one delivery method is definitely 'easier' than another without exception.

I am perfectly qualified to compare. I have a vaginal delivery with DD1, EMCS with epidural with DD2 and EMCS with general anaesthetic with DS.

CS is most certainly NOT the easy option. It would not have been a choice I would have made, had it not been life threatening to not have them.

The recovery is longer and harder. It is major surgery and not something to be undertaken lightly!!

I've had both, vaginal birth to a 10 lb er, she's right CS is a breeze in comparison!

It's a silly comment to make. Birth varies so much from woman to woman you just can't make generalisations. In my case I had an EmCS after 39 hours of labour but in the end I did feel very lucky because my recovery was so fast and easy. Certainly not the case for everyone though.