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To withhold out TV licence fees until the BBC stop sanctioning child abuse.

69 replies

Leena49 · 10/10/2012 05:53

I am not happy to keep paying a fee to the BBC. How many more child abusers lifestyles are we paying for? They have covered this up for years and sanctioned the behaviours and we have been funding it!

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borisjohnsonshair · 21/11/2012 17:46

FFS. What do you think that would achieve?

And not paying tax if Cameron was a paedo? Brilliant logic, just brilliant.

Grow up and stop looking for an excuse not to pay your TV licence.

phlebas · 21/11/2012 17:55

snorting at "Trapped with NO CHOICE WHATSOEVER but to watch television made by PAEDOS!" Grin

Surely - "If I found out David Cameron was a child abuser I would be threatening to withhold tax" - is at odds with - "I'm far from stupid by the way!"

shriekingnora · 21/11/2012 17:57

The BBC employs over 20,000 people. Even if 50 of them are implicated in the recent scandals that leaves a rather large number who aren't.

specialsubject · 21/11/2012 17:58

Fact: the TV licence allows you to watch live TV as it is broadcast on any device. It is not related to ownership of a television. If you always watch TV delayed (e.g. on iplayer) you don't need a licence, of course if everyone does this it all falls apart.

The BBC is an organisation that makes programmes and does other stuff. They had a devious, clever criminal 'hiding in plain sight' for years, but he was also involved with hospitals, institutions and many other places, and they were also fooled. He was trusted like no-one is trusted now. Times have changed, procedures have changed - for example no-one now is allowed to take vulnerable youngsters for 'days out' alone however great their celebrity. Sure, we learn lessons and we make sure it doesn't happen again, but a financial and legal frenzy benefits NO-ONE.

I'll shut up now. Thank you.

TiggyD · 21/11/2012 19:49

I want peace in the Middle East so I'm going to stop eating hummus and burn all my Dana International records.

goralka · 21/11/2012 19:53

that's quite a fatuous comment Tiggy as Dana International is not going to take you to court if you do not listen to her records is she?
and fine you £1000 pounds?

TiggyD · 21/11/2012 19:58

Do you know that for certain?

sooperdooper · 21/11/2012 20:09

Fact: the TV licence allows you to watch live TV as it is broadcast on any device. It is not related to ownership of a television. If you always watch TV delayed (e.g. on iplayer) you don't need a licence, of course if everyone does this it all falls apart.

iPlayer is the BBC, if nobody paid their licence fee it wouldn't exist! 4OD etc fall into this but not iplayer because it wouldn't be there any more

ShellyBoobs · 21/11/2012 21:55

If you found out david Cameron was an abuser you'd withhold taxes?

Do you think we pay taxes to David Cameron?

You said earlier you weren't stupid...

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus · 21/11/2012 22:12

I don't pay a licence fee (for my tv but it is paid for another tv in the house which I don't use) but I do watch BBC programmes.

You don't need a licence just because you have a TV just if you're watching live tv.

It's a ridiculous amount to pay for very little decent TV.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus · 21/11/2012 22:14

But YABU because 2 wrongs don't make a right and quite frankly, the BBC wont care.

goralka · 21/11/2012 22:15

what bugs me is the lack of 'choice' about it. Perhaps it should be paid for by advertising or subscription like other channels. Besides that any normal company that you owe money to goes through certain methods to get you to pay up, not just whack a summons on you, fine you £1000 and quite possibly take you to prison.

Flatbread · 22/11/2012 00:01

I agree with the OP. Why are we forced to pay for BBC? I am fine paying for public service programming, but not for JS and other celebrity shows. How exactly is TOP Gear, for example, in the public interest?

And why are the BBC management paid five figure salaries? If they want private sector pay checks, then go out and woo subscribers, like other private companies. Or if they are funded by the tax-payer, they should be fully accountable and transparent and work on civil servant salaries.

BBC is a bloated elephant with mediocre programmes. It is not an issue of a few bad apples, the whole institution is outdated. We have the net with multiple grassroots information sources. We don't need BBC.

Flatbread · 22/11/2012 00:03

I meant six figure salaries. £350k for a manager who is ultimately responsible for fuck all? Gravy train at the tax payers expense.

ShellyBoobs · 22/11/2012 19:20

I am fine paying for public service programming, but not for JS and other celebrity shows. How exactly is TOP Gear, for example, in the public interest?

Not sure about being 'in the public interest', but Top Gear makes an absolute fortune for the BBC.

treas · 22/11/2012 19:25

Oh Please!

ophelia275 · 22/11/2012 19:31

The licence needs to be scrapped, regardless of Jimmy Saville scandal. It's antiquated and quite ridiculous that millions of people are forced to pay so that the out of touch BBC can pay their "employees" millions, even if they only work for a few months. The BBC should be made to stand on its own two feet, like all other broadcasters have to.

TacticalWheelbarrow · 22/11/2012 19:35

Are you going to stop using the NHS too because from what I have read I am under the impression that the nurse's on the child's ward that Saville used to sponsor and visit knew something was amiss. Apparently they used to tell the kids to pretend to be asleep!

Flatbread · 22/11/2012 20:52

Shelly, lol. If Topgear earns BBC millions, then they should stop relying on the public purse. Use the money from their entertainment programmes to fund themselves.

There was a time when BBC made sense, as there was a threat that a few corporations would control media. But with the Internet and Twitter and blogs and new types of news sources such as Huffington post etc., we don't really need BBC anymore to safeguard a free press.

At the very most, the govt. could set aside a small grant to fund public interest programmes that all the broadcasters would need to air, say once a week from 7-8 pm or something. And the committee deciding on the funding could be comprised of people from different sectors, academia, business etc. The funds would be awarded to independent documentary makers, based on the quality of their proposals.

There is absolutely no need for BBC in its current bloated form.

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