mothers who plan to bottle feed should take in their own milk

[thebeesnees79]

If a woman decided prior to baby being born they shouldn't expect the hospital to provide bottles and milk they should bring their own?
Why should the nhs give out milk? aibu?

sookiesookie - because all being well the mother is the patient NOT the baby.

Well perhaps if it costs the NHS so much to feed a baby we should start checking to see whether people have paid in to determine whether they should hav milk provided or not.... YABVU and silly. Where do you draw the line.

I think ou just want to harp on about how difficult your birth was blah blah blah.

I had no intention of BF. I took in my own formula. I had a c-Section. Other people used formula from the hospital.

I am sure there are things costing the NHS a lot more money than a few areas where formula is provided for a couple of days.

Blah blah blah

SO what your saying is of course if a mother tried to feed her baby and didnt get on well with BF for the multitude of reasons then that is fine to top up with NHS formula but if she choses to formula feed then that is a bad thing and the NHS shouldn't provide the few bottles till the baby goes home,

luchrrlover babies shoudl be fed because they are patients. Do you also believe smokers shouldn't be treated? After all if they had take the alternate route and not smoked they wouldn't be there. There was an alternative for them.
Would it be ok to provide formula for people, like me who don't have a choice? That's very fair

I thought the NHS was meant to treat us all the same.

Its about time propel stopped judging other people because of the choice they .ake regarding feeding. Its so sad.

Im more concerned about the logistics of it all. Surely the last thing you want to do after giving birth is stand sterilising bottles and making up feeds.

I tried to bf my first and couldnt. The hospital provided me with milk.

I have made the choice this time round to take that stress out of it and ff. I would take my own milk if I had to (afaik I dont) but how would it actually be practical in hospital?

mrsjay that is exactly was this caring ex nurse is saying....

It's all a stupid and ill thought out way to get more women to bf.
What a joke.
Doesn't work does it?
Ff rates going up each year...
Why should women be forced to do something they don't want to do?
Bf takes time and commitment. If you don't want to or resent it it won't tower do you or the child.
I think simply saying I don't want to is good enough reason not to bf.
Why should she?
Why is it any of your business?

what, there are some very bizarre and damn right rude comments.
I will not "go away" I am not "reporting back to the nhs" & I do not want to "go on about my difficult birth"
thank you notmarlene for actually understanding the point I was trying to make!

I think when I had my DS1 20 years ago, bottle feeding mums had to take their own formula. There were sterilising facilities on the ward, and HCAs on hand to do baby bottle demonstrations.

This policy makes sense on a lot of levels.

because all being well the mother is the patient NOT the baby. I think you will find both mother and baby have admittance and release papers. So both are patients.

who said women should be made to breast feed?
Stepping away from the thread now because it was never intended to be a breast V's formula argument. and I am not taking a bashing for thinking the way I do, that a woman who has no intention of bf should bring in her own formula. If they are on a low income they get healthy start vouchers to buy milk. its not a question of class and stopping people from being entitled.

What a pointless debate, if this was the rule then mums to be can just say they plan to bf and then "change their mind" when the baby's born - its not rocket science surely?!

Well OP you asked AIBU? What did you expect?

OP you didn't answer, have you ever eaten a free hospital meal?

I cannot breastfed this time. I've had a mastectomy. I do know this in advance though. Obviously. By your reasoning OP we would all need to fill out some kind of feeding questionnaire before entering the delivery suite about our choices and reasons. This would tax the already overworked NHS staff with extra paperwork. It would upset many mothers. Who would then decide if you were allowed the NHS formula or needed you own. All this amidst contractions? How would it work? And as many other posters have said already how will the sterilisation work on the ward the logistics would be chaotic surely? I do not tho k you have thought out your argument at all !

as somebody who has worked for the nhs for years and seen the amount of money being wasted [literally billions] taking ff away from tiny babies wont save them that much in the long run however they have been doing this for years anyway so your a\rgument is pointless and is a breast is best debate.

I find the whole debate odd. I've never had a baby in( or indeed looked round a hospital) which would provide formula. So the sample of 5 I've seen, say you have to provide your own formula anyway and people just get on with it. Formula is provided for emergencies only. Maybe that was a London thing and is now speeding, but it seems pretty standard to me.

It's simple enough - it,s part of the 'baby friendly' initiative. Evidence shows that putting a small obstacle in the way incentivises bf'ing during the initial critical period. It's along the lines of my mw saying 'let's give it another hour' when I requested an epidural.

because all being well the mother is the patient NOT the baby. I think you will find both mother and baby have admittance and release papers. So both are patients.

No, unless the baby is ill and admitted as a patient, it is not a patient. There will be no record of the baby in medical records - it will just be nameless baby in the mother's notes.

i am planning to bottle feed this time so i am taking in my own bottles the last two times i planned on breastfeeding so the hospital helped me out when i was unable to and im gluten intolerant so i do have to take my own food as they wont provide that either without a fight! :-)

It is a formula against breast milk debate though even if you didn't want it to be, taking away a womans choice about how she feeds her baby is going to cause a debate,

iThe NHS waste money right left and centre on daft things a few bottles of milk isn't going to bankrupt them and most hospitals don't privide milk anymore which IMo is wrong

Amongst all this rage, can I just point out nanny0gg's awesome typo/autocorrect:

Do you have to take bottles and milik in just in case?

That's made me laugh milik

As it happens I did take my own formula in, having learnt from last time how shitty the bf support was. As it happens, it wasn't shitty this time, although it still didn't work but hey.

Anyway, as I brought in my own bathroom wipes, pillow, towels, food because their food was so disgusting, there was barely any room in the regulation one tiny bag for any nappies and clothes . I managed to squeeze in the formula though so I hope that makes you happier.

But I think you're wrong. It's such a tiny thing in the scheme of things and there are far better places to start if you want to curb NHS wastage.