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teacher who has run off to France with his 15 year old pupil - thread 2

176 replies

shesariver · 27/09/2012 16:26

Original thread has reached 1000 messages and cant see another one so hope IANBU to start this, stuck at work and wondering what the press conference has said?

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Mrsjay · 28/09/2012 13:17

I wonder if he can be tried without her compliance.

Probably he will

Badvoc · 28/09/2012 13:18

Found due to media coverage I France bbc are saying.

edam · 28/09/2012 13:19

The report says it was.media coverage that led to them being found. The media will NOT be 'all over her' because she's 15 and he is presumably facing charges.

DontmindifIdo · 28/09/2012 13:25

MrsJay - the Daily Fail says he's been arrested for "taking of a minor" without parental consent - so he can be charged without her cooporation as long as her parents do press charges (I'll eat my own hair if her parents suddenly get all forgiving and invite him with open arms as a suitable furture son-in-law) - there's enough footage/evidence to confirm they travelled together, so he can hardly claim he didn't take her out of the country. If he can be charged with anything else, that's yet to be seen.

...and he still has to face his wife.

meditrina · 28/09/2012 13:29

As he has been arrested, there should be news on whether he is charged and what those charges are, fairly shortly. In UK there are time limits to how long an arrested suspect can be held before charge, but I don't know when that clock starts ticking for those arrested overseas. will he be re-arrested by the British police on return to England?

Latemates · 28/09/2012 13:33

Have a feeling (could be way off base tho) that there is a lot more to this story to come. Something not quiet adding up in my mind.

RichTeas · 28/09/2012 13:35

Not sure why the press and many of the posters here are so hysterical about this story. Surely the "student running off with teacher lover" story is as old as the hills. Technically the girl is on the wrong side of 16, and there is a substantial age gap, but this is not NATIONAL NEWS. The teacher is wrong from a professional standpoint and should be disciplined accordingly. He is old in relation to the girl and for families and friends to make their views known to him is normal. BUT, it's a human story and there is nothing so fundamentally wrong that it needs to be on TV every day. At least the teacher is mature enough and seems responsible. Would it be preferable if the 15 year old girl ran off with a 17 year old druggie? She is practically adult and there is no evidence of coercion so the media should drop this story and let they and their families deal with it.

meditrina · 28/09/2012 13:40

It was, correctly, international news and the publicity assisted in her retrieval.

There is a public interest in ensuring safeguarding in schools is working, so the outcome will be worth reporting too. And when it is a teacher, the age of consent is 18, not 16.

Mrsjay · 28/09/2012 13:41

It is national news because parents reported their child missing would be the same for any 15 yr old IMO and he is her teacher in a position of trust infact teachers are regarded as gaurdians while kids are at school,

and what does a 30 yr old man see in a 15 year old girl however mature she seems ,

edam · 28/09/2012 13:44

Rich - are you aware this school had another teacher convicted of grooming pupils and a governor who stayed in post despite multiple charges of abusing children? This case needs MORE scrutiny, not less.

Tuttutitlookslikerain · 28/09/2012 13:49

I can't get over the amount of people saying this story got too much coverage! If it were my child who was missing I would want as much media coverage as possible!

I am so glad they have been found. I hope Megan and her family get a lot of support in the coming days, weeks and months. I hope Jeremy Forrest enjoys his time in prison, and I feel the school, police and authorities have a lot of questions to answer!

OhSoSimple · 28/09/2012 14:00

I also wonder about prosecution - do the police HAVE to have the parents co-operate with this? Surely they can prosecute simply with the knowledge that she did not have permission even if her parents do not actively chase prosecution.

I only say this as should imagine that unless she has tired of him, she will desperately plead with her mum not to press charges, and for the sake of their mother/daughter relationship she may relent.

RichTeas · 28/09/2012 14:01

I didn't know about the school having cases of grooming children, and I also didn't know there was a higher age of consent with respect to teachers. If it is indeed 18 then I can see why there is concern. Nevertheless there are hundreds of cases of 15 year olds leaving home or running off with someone, and this situation has to be put into perspective.

OhSoSimple · 28/09/2012 14:02

Besides the British media won't be able to be "all over her" as she has probably already had an offer from Max Clifford!

EldritchCleavage · 28/09/2012 15:06

Besides the British media won't be able to be "all over her" as she has probably already had an offer from Max Clifford!

Reporting restrictions orders will be being made in this case pronto. Law is you can't name a child defendant, victim or witness anyway. As a 15 year old Megan won't have the freedom to sell her story regardless. She'll slip out of the media coverage for that reason now.

Mrsjay · 28/09/2012 15:11

Rich he was her teacher supposed to be tutoring her in Maths for her exams HE WAS HER TEACHER a person of trust, would you say the same if it was a social worker running off with 1 of his `15 yr old clients ,

shesariver · 28/09/2012 15:18

She may disappear from the media, but I imagine we may get stories sold to the papers about him from people who knew him.

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edam · 28/09/2012 15:20

not if/when he's charged, you won't. Reporting restrictions will apply to avoid prejudicing any future trial.

Mrsjay · 28/09/2012 15:22

There was a woman on This Morning who did the same sort of thing with a teacher I meant to watch it she is a grown up now

shesariver · 28/09/2012 15:23

Thanks Edam

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Fishwife1949 · 28/09/2012 15:27

Hopefuly she will see even his parents think this os wrong she might smell the coffie

Tuttutitlookslikerain · 28/09/2012 15:30

There was MrsJay, I sort of watched it. She was with him for 7 years IIRC. I expect it will be on ITVplayer or the ThisMorning website.

Mrsjay · 28/09/2012 15:34

I might have a look on the iplayer

McHappyPants2012 · 28/09/2012 15:43

:) thank god she is found

edam · 28/09/2012 15:54

no problem, she's. The tabs had started to get rather carried away with flouting reporting restrictions esp. in the Joanna Yeates murder case, where they pilloried an entirely innocent man. But have been called back into line by the attorney general and by Leveson.