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To be scared of getting a job in case I'm worse off?

601 replies

BenefitScrounger · 21/09/2012 11:50

NC and prepared for a flaming.

I've been claiming JSA for over two years now and am on the Work Programme. I have no qualifications and all I could get (I think) is a minimum wage job. I have been lying about my attempts to get work because I think I am better off out of work.

At the moment I get full housing benefit plus council tax, free dental care/prescriptions (if I need them) and £71 a week to live on. My bills aren't covered obviously, but they're not huge, and I have lots of free time to indulge hobbies etc.. I don't feel the need to buy stuff very often as I'm not into fashion/beauty and I eat cheaply. I can afford to eat out once a week with a TasteCard. The only thing I miss is holidays abroad but I'm not sure I would be able to afford them if I got a job anyway.

If I got a full time minimum wage job, would I be worse off? Just thinking of travel expenses, student loan repayment and time lost - not sure if I would still get any council tax benefit?

Has anyone had experience of this? By the way, I'm childless and live alone.

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NellyJob · 21/09/2012 20:42

right anyone who doesn't receive child benefits, tax credits, or HB top up, may speak next about ...oooh we are paying for you dolescroungingtroll or whatever OP's name is......
who is going first?

ClownBikeInAVelodrome · 21/09/2012 20:44

OK think of it this way then. The benefits pot is a big pot of money. It has to be divided up somehow. If you are taking from the pot, someone else can't have what you're getting. That person may be UNABLE to work. They therefore get less.

If people like you claim, then the Government can't afford to give more to people who genuinely can't work. These are people who will probably have additional needs (which mean that they can't work- read BendyGirl's blog 'benefit scrounging scum'- if you're disabled and can't work you probably can't look after yourself without help either and that costs money). The fact people like yourself claim, means that the pot has to be divided differently, and genuinely needy people are forced to not eat/not heat their homes because they cannot afford to, whereas you as an able bodied person don't have the same expenses.

The fact you can't see any of these things makes you a bit thick I think.

If you are serious about not wanting to participate, stop claiming ANYTHING. Seriously.

ClownBikeInAVelodrome · 21/09/2012 20:46

I have nothing against benefit claimants.

Only the OP.

Rowanhart · 21/09/2012 20:48

I get nothing.i have no problem paying benefits to people in genuine need. I object to paying for people who just see it as an easier option.

BenefitScrounger · 21/09/2012 20:50

Yes Nelly, I would still get benefits if I worked! At least that's what everyone's been saying.

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GoldShip · 21/09/2012 20:52

I know our taxes go to people genuinly in need and I love our system for that, that we take care of those in need (admittedly its not up to standard and needs fixing but there you go)

But people like this sicken me. I don't even know why I'm arguing becsuse I know you're a windup.

ekidna · 21/09/2012 20:54

People who work for Wetherspoons actually contribute a fuck of a lot to society. Seriously they bloody do.

I always find their employees incredibly polite and efficient.

Wetherspoons is the hub of a lot of communities and also seems to be replacing day centre/lunch club/social support club functions in times of funding cuts.

BenefitScrounger · 21/09/2012 20:55

I understand what you're saying Clown, but I don't believe I'm taking money out of poorer people's hands; I think that is down to the rich of the country.

I take hardly any money and I give to certain causes (71p a week! I tithe.).

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BenefitScrounger · 21/09/2012 20:56

I know ekidna, I'm there at 9am every day. (That's not true. Yet.)

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Toombs · 21/09/2012 20:56

You don't give, it's our money. All you do is take.

GoldShip · 21/09/2012 20:56

The rich of the country pay tax, at a very high percentage you idiot.

NellyJob · 21/09/2012 20:57

titheing is ten per cent you fuckwit not one per cent, no wonder you can't get a job

Toombs · 21/09/2012 20:58

The rich of the country pay tax, at a very high percentage you idiot

The top 1% pay 30% of all tax, the OP on the other hand has never contributed anything.

GetOrfAKAMrsUsainBolt · 21/09/2012 20:59

You tithe 1%.

Grin
GetOrfAKAMrsUsainBolt · 21/09/2012 21:00

DALMATIANS

GOLDEN RETRIEVERS

CAVALIER KING CHARLES SPANIELS

BenefitScrounger · 21/09/2012 21:02

Ok, fine, all I do is take. Unlike some people I don't take much. I'm sure my friends with jobs give a lot more to society by working, even if most of their efforts end up as a portion of Unilever's profits. God, I would hate to think I could contribute to any horrible company like that. I can't even buy Marmite!

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Acumens100 · 21/09/2012 21:03

Tithe would be £7.10. Or actually more like £29.60 per week, lowest estimate.

NellyJob · 21/09/2012 21:03

oops silly me Grin
PONIES
DEAD RABBITS
BADGERS

BenefitScrounger · 21/09/2012 21:04

Tithing thing was a joke too. Trying to make friends. Heh.

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Toombs · 21/09/2012 21:05

even if most of their efforts end up as a portion of Unilever's profits

Which are taxed, perhaps they shouldn't make a profit, then we can't tax it and won't have any money to give away to dole scroungers, like you.

amillionyears · 21/09/2012 21:05

op,you are either
a. fake
b.not really listening to other people
c.have an agenda
d.not thinking through right to the end,which could mean no benefits,no job,possibly out on your ear,possibly possibly sex work if no other work is available to you
e.think you have all of the answers
f.knows you are wrong and most other people on here are right but dont want to think that,so are trying every way round it that you can think of.
g.dont want to believe what others are saying so emotionally blocking your ears
h.think something will come along,that is lovely and high paying without having to do much to earn it

My money is on f.
second choice a.

BenefitScrounger · 21/09/2012 21:05

It's not true that I've NEVER paid tax. I have had jobs before.

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Acumens100 · 21/09/2012 21:07

It's really very effective trolling.

Blood. Hands. Yours.

BenefitScrounger · 21/09/2012 21:08

It's more 'h' without the word 'high', and 'b'. :)

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