to think that there is NEVER an acceptable reason to call a 32 year old woman a "young girl?"

[Hullygully]

No I'm not.

I couldn't care less what emotive flannel is flung about.

IT. IS.NOT.ACCEPTABLE.

The end.

Squeakytoy, it is important, like it or not.
Police officers deserve to be valued and honoured regardless of gender. These officers didn't get to go home. Gender specific references are redundant and unnecessary- put yourself in the situation of a female police officer in these times and you might understand the constant battle they face from colleagues, never mind the public.

Indeed, oppression in it's purest form!

oh bollox I can't be bothered any more

you enjoy the fruits of the fight women fought for you while thinking its fine to patronise and belittle them and good luck to you.

Put it this way. When two police officers are described as young girls, I would have to be pretty fucking idiotic to view them as infants/children, wouldn't I?

I'm assuming that most of the population aren't as idiotic either.

But doesn't the expression reflect the terrible waste of life? When there is news of a soldier being killed I do hear people say ' but he was just a boy'.

I don't think the people saying it are labouring under the illusion that these police officers or soldiers who have lost their lives are children, but simply reflecting the sense of waste at a life cut short.

police girls? oh my. hully is right.

could you take over for a bit mme? I need to kill myself a bit.

You called me a moron and then fucking whinge about patronising people!

I apologise.

I should have said you think and post like a moron.

I love it when people start a thread and tell the whole world their opinion and then get shirty when they find that not everyone agrees with their special snowflake thoughts.

fill your boots dear young girl

to be called a young girl is demeaning in any areas but particularly so when referring to adult professionals.

my eldest stepdaughter is a police office. she is 29.

she is a young girl to me and her dad..

if she was killed on duty, she would still be a young girl to me and her dad..

and i would be heartbroken, and i really would not care what her superiors said.. i certainly wouldnt pick holes in it..

shame on you Hully for even starting this thread..

the previous one was in bad taste, but this is just fucking disgusting....

I referred to myself as a "girl" the other day. As soon as the words left my mouth, I cringed. I'm 40 who am I trying to kid?

I think people, especially over a certain age, have a problem with what to call females. My mum would never call someone a 'woman', it's always 'lady', but that sounds ridiculous in a professional context.

I have no problem at all with woman, so maybe it's a generational thing.

Mind you, I'm never quite sure what to say the other way around either. I resort to 'chap' quite a bit.

I'm 32 and if anyone wants to call me a young girl feel free..
Please !!!

(Runs and hides)!

I do get that point, MissAnnersley. I didn't initially, but I do now. And it makes sense. I've heard about soldier deaths on the news and thought 'But they're just kids'. Because to me, at 34, 18 year olds are kids. But I also understand that when it has taken women years and years to be taken seriously in certain professions, it might seem like a step backward.

You're right.

Young girls shoudln't be police officers.

Send them home to cook and clean and do embroidery.

Absolutely.

to be called a young girl is demeaning in many arenas but particularly so when referring to adult professionals. it is frequently used to infantilise and diminish and disempower adults in when in dispute.

Seriously??? SERIOUSLYY??? I prefer my world to the one you wish to create.

Let it go or take it the fuck over to the rad fem offence at everything lets make the world shit forum.

awaits hysterical lectures from women saying I'm letting the side down

I do wish you intelligent people would focus your ire on the more appropriate issues.

What is WRONG with people this week? This thread is NOT disgusting. Nor was Seeker's. What is deeply worrying though is the rabid reaction some posters have to anything even remotely 'feminist' atm . No idea what that's all about.

I agree chickens absolutely that it may well seem like a backward step. I'm in a profession that is mainly women so have never had to strive to be taken seriously in that context, so it is probably affecting my opinion.

Oh FFS, you're being a drama queen and seriously projecting your own issues.

It is disgusting. Someone's child has died, no matter how old they are. It's horrific for them.

Northern - aree re feminism . But two threads on this is not winning hearts and minds