To think this is a bit questionable

[GoldShip]

Id just like to know whether this is right or not

In my new contract at work they've said that if we want to take a second job elsewhere, we have to let them know first so they can decide whether or not it's suitable FOR THEM for me to have the second job.

Is this right, legally I mean?

In my opinion as long as it doesn't effect my job I should have to basically 'ask permission' from my current employers?

Pretty standard, and as long as they don't unreasonably withhold permission, absolutely fine.

It's to make sure people don't take jobs that are a conflict of interest, or that require them doing night shifts elsewhere and day shifts at their main employer, or whatever.

You are sensible I'm sure, and would be able to judge whether a job has a negative impact on your employer, but not everyone could or would.

It depends. If your second job would reflect badly on them and their organisation then they could do.

They want to preserve their image/reputation afterall.

In terms of it being legal, if it's in the contract that you sign, then you've agreed to it.

I've not signed anything yet. And as far as I'm aware just because it's in a contract doesn't mean it overpowers what is already legal.

Dont get me wrong my job is very important to me and i have got a second job that doesn't impede on it at all, but I just question what gives them the right to survey what I do in my spare time. They're my employers, not my rulers.

Bit weird.

Surely what you do in your own time is up to you?

It is legal, and it does depend on the impact that a second job might have on your first, and also if there may be a conflict of interests.

You could be a primary teacher during the day, which would mean it may not be appropriate to be a lap dancer in a local bar in the evenings.

Loads of companies dont agree with moonlighting as they put it.

Another example could be a driving job. If you are tacographed during the day, it would be inadvisable to have a second job which also involved driving too, due to limits and regulations.

Yes they can and imo are sensible to do so. For the reasons in previous posts.

I think it has been in every contract I have ever signed for employment. It is mainly to do with working hours (european directive) and also more rarely to do with bringing the company into disrepute.

I think your employer would be more worried about you working for a competitor and (intentionally or not) giving away company information.

Yeah I understand how one job can impact on another, I just didn't know if it were legal for them to ask us to do this.

I mean without going into detail, it's a warehouse and offices, 9-5. I just thought it a weird thing to ask given the circumstances.

Thanks everyone anyway!

It's fairly normal (and becoming more common) for contracts to dictate behaviour out of work for example social media clauses.

It is probably a standard section of the contract that every employee receives. A warehouse will probably have drivers, so it would cover them, and sales staff will also be bound by confidentiality too I should imagine.

If you wanted to get a part time evening job in a pub as barstaff, there would be no objection, however if that was working up until 2am, and you were then turning up to work late on a regular basis on the morning after your shifts, that would be an issue for them.

I am very clear with my staff about whatever extra work they do. Basically anything that is conflict of interests/bringing company into disrepute are obviously ruled out. Anyone doing freelance work in same business is a fine line too.

Im a nanny and had that in one contract (worked 4 days a week), i asked to take it out as nothing to do with her what i do on my 5th day or if i choose to babysit for another family, unless she was paying me 24/7 so to speak and she removed it as didnt realise it was in there as just printed off a standard contract.
I guess it depends on the job you have. I can understand for eg a driving job where you can only legally work so many hours so would be hard if you had more than one job.
Also what i find in most nanny contracts is you must have 11 hrs off between shifts, which isnt realistic when they want you to babysit. Half the times, people dont even know what they put in their own contracts

My last contract I signed was 3 years ago, and this was in. They can only refuse if it will be detrimental to your main job.

Pretty sure it's in mine too. It's fairly standard.

that's in DHs and mine,

mine it's mainly about hours and burn out
DHs it's more about competition and nicking clients so there is a stated radius, as in basically he can't set up his own buisness next door on his days off and nick all the clients he met through his employer

It's something that's been fairly standard in my last 3 jobs, and in my staff contracts. Its tied in to the working time directive, potential for damage to organisational reputation (eg children's workers also lap dancing...) and not having additional work impinge on the ability to fulfil what is a very demanding day job. It might be worth asking what would usually be considered unacceptable or the reasons for the clause if you're concerned,

its not a big deal, when I did take a second job I was just asked if the hours exceeded WTD and if they did I just had to sign the opt out disclaimer

I've even had this in a contract for a PT shelf stacking job - and they refused to give me extra hours, AND they refused me permission to work for ANY other retail employer.

Which meant that I had to leave the job!

its in my contract. i'm officially my husband's company sec as well. when i queried this with personnel (of my main job) they said it was fine - think they would have had more of a problem if my second job had been with a competitor, for example.

It is impossible if ALL the employment you can find is PT, you need FT, so you take two PT jobs to make FT hours, then find you are in breach of contract or that you are refused permission to work, say, in two local supermarkets PT.

When all you want to do is live!