to be fed up of being told how to make DS sleep

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Gina Ford herself could not make this boy sleep i've accepted it after trying everything i don't ask for advice but i get it because i look shit tired alot.

Thats it i just needed to get that out.

Argh stupid phone cut and paste!

My absolute favourite is "have you tried a routine - bath, story, bed?"

It's like asking someone who says they're feeling hungry if they've tried eating something.

Of course I have!!!

Sleep?!?

Wtf is that?

My head hits a pillow and I pass out.

Does that count?

YANBU

DD 2.2 has slept through the night only twice in 2 years and wakes most nights about 4/5 times I have got to the stage now where I don't even talk about it with my friends, I just carry on as normal ( even though most days i resemble a walking zombie) and drink lots of coffee. I actually started to worry that the lack of sleep may affect DD's learning/behaviour however this has not happened,she is a very bright child and quite well behaved for a 2yo so here's hoping for a high IQ it's all that's keeping me going!

Raspberryandorangesorbet I was so pleased when I finally weaned DD and could finally say to people, "LOOK IT MADE NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE". Cutting off my nose to spite my face slightly but still.

oh god yes... everyone has advice about something... some of it is useful, some of it is delivered in a kind way but the people who say this is what you ought to be doing about... sleep/potty training/getting him to wear shoes as if theirs is the only way drive me demented...

I would quite like to say that the main reason babies dont sleep is because their parents dont let them (barring amy medical reason of course) but I darent ;)

Just a neat little anecdote from my past (just in case you haven't tried it yet.... ;) ) A friend of mine was at the end of her tether with her little boys who got to two years old and was still up half the night. He was so excited about his brother having the tooth fairy she invented the sleep fairy who left him 10p under his pillow for every night that he slept and gradually he slept more and more... of course that wont help with babies but I thought it was a nice story :)

I would quite like to say that the main reason babies dont sleep is because their parents dont let them I really hope you don't think that nokidshere. I have found that people take credit for things that are nothing to do with their parenting. I have a great eater, she is a terrible sleeper. My friend has a child the exact opposite. It is just genetics.

Rusks. People are always going on about rusks to me. Have I tried a rusk before bed? Have I tried a rusk in his bottle?

I'm sure a sugar laden snack would help.

Shut up, nokidshere. That is by far the most utterly-bollocks filled sentence I have ever read on here.

SirGOLD, are you throwing rusks?

I just went and sang hymns loudly in DS's room and tickled him. He woke up. I have realised I don't let him sleep. That's where I've been going wrong for 9 months.

I like the burning sick feeling and the spots

My sis NEVER bloody slept. She is super clever. You have clearly got genius babies!
Advice about the advice? Tell them if feeding LO vodka fails to solve the issue then you will be sure to try their smug suggestion.

Yep. I'm certainly not letting dd sleep. Every time I try and put her in her bed, she wakes up. Silly me, need to hold her all night.

My aunty said bad sleeping is a sign of intelligence. Her bad sleeper is a consultant (dr) now.

Rusks soaked in vodka? Sugar and alcohol. Like red bull surely?

I didn't mean that parents actively keep their children awake. Simply that the majority of parents who have children who can't/won't sleep are using the wrong techniques for doing so. Or are actually not as bothered by it as they think, or are too knackered and so don't spend long enough using the techniques for them to work.

I have never used cc, and I have never left a child to cry - not ever. But in 35 years as a childcare professioinal I have never looked after a baby/child that I could not get to sleep. Even when their parents tell me that they don't sleep at home or are disturbed throughout the night I can always get them to sleep - whether thats been in my home, their home or a nursery setting.

I know I will get flamed for my remarks and so be it. But children can be trained to sleep, even the worst offenders. It takes time thats all and finding a technique that is right for your baby. The reason thats its so hard for many parents is that they are so tired its hard to see the woods for the trees.

My own children sleep well but my youngest has periods of being unable to get to sleep and the technique I used for him as a baby works just as well now he is older.