Not to know what is middle class

[Goldchilled7up]

Inspired by another thread in chat, what does middle class mean to you?

I seriously don't know. Aibu?

@ceeveebee I agree. The "middle class" people weren't like anyone I know and I am v middle class. They were lower middle class with some cash if anything. Most middle class people aren't that wealthy and most middle class people have better taste!

Ethel middle class does not automatically mean you have good taste!

Anyone seen a 50 something middle class man with orange cords?

If you don't believe in class, or know what class you are, then you are middle class, ime. No working class person in their right mind would have the disgrace to deny it. Obviously, class doesn't apply to everyone, some people belong in both classes, or move around the classes, but the class system certainly exists.

Anyone seen a 50 something middle class man with orange cords

Teamed with browned tassley loafers

My uncle is probably lower middle class dad was a manager of a factory mum was from a nice background, and he is in his 70s and some of his golf jumper cord combos are a sight to behold

He isn't in late 60s

working class person in their right mind would have the disgrace to deny i

not sure what this means TBH

I think what Grayson was saying was that 'old' middle class people (Tunbridge Wells) were more confident of their own taste whereas 'new' middle class (Kingsmill) were less so and needed the brand names to validate their style choices.
Perhaps middle class people all think they have good taste, whereas other classes either don't know or don't care!!

Well no, I'm not surprised. You've probably been born into a comfortable middle class family.

Well no, I'm not surprised. You've probably been born into a comfortable middle class family.

wow you got all that from 1 question, you have no idea what I was born into

a lady i know and personally think is delightfull is probally mc and would define herself as such and yep i would say her taste probally very much fits in with what others would describe as mc but in my view her taste is bland uninspiring and pretty much exactly the same as all the other people she knows who define themselves as mc.

mostly eveybody thinks they have good taste after all isant taste just what you 'like' you wouldnt like it if you didnt think it was good/nice, but i think when it comes to some people its more about if you think your neighbours think you have good taste iyswim?

mrsjay i wasn't sure whether that comment was aimed at you or me - obviously dave hasn't bothered to read the thread or would know this to be very wrong!!

Wow, this is even more complex and impenetrable than the caste system I grew up with in India.

On another note, are immigrants outside these "class"ifications? By its very definition, someone new to the country cant be upper class, right? Landed gentry etc... I was MC back home

obviously dave hasn't bothered to read the thread or would know this to be very wrong!!

Nothing worse than somebody stomping over a thread eh

ceeveebee The blonde woman Grayson interviews is Kate Fox author of Watching the English!

I couldn't believe the people on that housing estate thought they were middle class.

SnowWide

I am puzzled by the same question re immigrants. I am in some ways stereotypically middle middle class - Uni educated, professional role, children in private schools etc but DH arrived here as a penniless immigrant from North Africa. I doubt he has the first idea how the British class system works nor what the class "markers" are. Lucky man

Oh was it Kate Fox?? Funny I recommended her book right at the start of this thread but didn't see that it was her - was watching while feeding DCs in the dark so not completely focused!! I just thought it was a very switched on Tunbridge wellian!!

ceeveebee i ordered the book from amazon when you posted about it, i cant even remember the other book you talked about ages ago but i got that as well and enjoyed it, i now have a compulsion to order every book you surgest.(please dont tell me to get shades i just couldnt ).

Really sock? Who would have thought it, a working class lass like me recommending books on mumsnet, my gran would spin in her pauper's grave!!

It means absolutley nothing to me. The only time I hear people describe themselves as middle class is when they are pretending to be respectable types who never say say fuck it or shit bag.

yep if its any consolation my grandma would be very at me using amazon

Original- I went to a grammar school. Didn't fail my eleven plus and have to go to a secondary if that is what you are implying!

It's much easier here in the US where EVERYONE is middle class- even Mitt Romney.
I always thought it had to do with your occupation in Britain and, at least in Scotland, moving class was possible. My mum and dad grew up working class but they became a teacher and doctor so we grew up middle class. My mum had a different accent for each situation.

Scarlett are you very old? Because we haven't had the eleven plus and the grammar/secondary system in England for a long long time other than in very few areas.