Not to know what is middle class

[Goldchilled7up]

Inspired by another thread in chat, what does middle class mean to you?

I seriously don't know. Aibu?

but what about people in inherited estates whose kids live in hand me downs who wouldnt dream of wearing designer gear,drive banged up old cars till they fall apart. rarely have visitors in the winter as they can only afford to heat one wing, public school educated as are all children

but

have visable tattoos,swear,watch xfactor and cant spell.

this is all very very confusing it was making me laugh but now my eyes hurt

sock they must be squatters surely!

i just spat my tea out brilliant

It's not about what you own or where you live. It's about cultural capital as mentioned upthread -- and habits of mind/ assumptions you would never consciously think about too; if you have to think about what or who you are then you are not It. If you do something or buy something because that is what We do and that is the primary element of your decision, then you are not It. There is a difference between having a certain lifestyle and having a certain state of mind.

Have The Fifth Element on in the background as I finish labels. Milla Jovovich looks so good in it. Costumes are great too.

Bloody hell wrong thread! Yes middle class all about attitude.

haha SE have learnt a lot from MN. I have learnt SO much about my parents' English habits! Which were unusual for where grew up but make sense now.

Great to see you btw.

Too many windows open

on the computer

Not been to a proper uni, not middle class. It doesn't matter how much you earn.

What is a proper uni? Some ex polys might be better in subjects such as engineering no?

Maybe I should re phrase that- a degree that requires some effort to get on to, not a degree for degrees sake that you can get On to with rubbish a level results. A degree doesn't automatically make you middle class but you cant really be middle class without one or at least have parents who are university educated.

Ok Scarlettsmummy so you have two brothers one of them gets 2 AAB in A levels and accepts a place at Bath on a Social Sciences course and gets a job in local government, the other brother gets BBB and goes off to study Automotive Engineering at Hertfordshire Uni. Brother number 2 can't be middle class because he went to an ex poly but brother number 1 is considered middle class. That is nonsense.

I'm not convinced that 'you can't be MC without a degree'.

And what if you are middle class, but your DCs are not academic? Or are you saying all middle class people are automatically academic?
Are you sure you aren't confusing 'middle class' with 'intelligence'?

Obviously it is a generalisation but it is true in most cases that you need to be university educated with a decent degree to be classified as middle class going on the traditional indicators. Everyone now seems to define themselves as middle class, but that doesn't mean they are!

Are you middle class Scarlett?

Yes, parents both uni educated, I went to private prep school and then went to a russell group uni. All my mums friends are traditional middle class, and they all have professional qualifications. It is the one thing they all have in common. Sorry if that offends.

Did anyone see Grayson's Perry's TV series about class in contemporary Britain as shown through design choices? I thought it was very revealing - definitely recognised myself there! (FWIW, I was the 'Leamington' variety of Middle Class).

I missed that Grendel. Will have to see if it is on iplayer.