to think that being in a mobility scooter means that your excuse for abusing parent & child parking is COMPLETELY invalid rant rant rant

[flibberdyjibbert]

So I pulled up in parent & child parking, & as we were getting out, so did a car with 2 adults. I pointed out that this was parent & child parking, noted the scooter in the back of the car, & helpfully self-righteously pointed out that there were plenty (about 10 times as many) of disabled spaces a mere stones-throw away.

Them: 'Oh, but they are a long way from the store & it's a long way to go when you are disabled'
Me: Yes, well I'm ok with mine (1 & 3), but it's a long way to go with a newborn baby if you can't park here'
Them (tone of voice changes from the previous slight whine): 'Fuck off!'
Me: [stunned silence that anyone could be so blatantly rude & inconsiderate in so many ways at once]
Them: 'Go on, go away. Fuck off!'
Me: 'You are rude. You are very rude.'

So I've since established that a disabled badge means you can park wherever you like, including parent & child spaces, because these are only 'courtesy' spaces, not legally just for parents with children.

Which is fine. I have no problem with that.

But this person was using the space because it would otherwise be a long way to go 'for a disabled person'. And were then later observed by myself to be transporting themselves around Sainsburys IN A MOBILITY SCOOTER. It would have had to use an extra 2 minutes of battery to come from a Disabled parking space.

And they were SO RUDE

Must go, the chilli's burning.

at these lot offering their addresses and phone nrs

I don't quite understand why having a child means you can't walk across a carpark anyway. I regularly get on the train with my baby to go see friends and will walk a few miles to the shops. I'm fit and strong an I don't need assistance or special treatment.

I've have no idea why the OP was motivated to confront the parkers. There were loads of spaces, it had no impact on her or her day. I'm not surprised they swore at you. It wasn't nice but there you are.

Op knows she was unreasonable, and has gone off shame faced.

I still can't get over the rubbish parenting, what type of person models attacking vulnerable people as if it is ok behaviour? Their kids will be bullies if that is the attutude they see modelled.

''young children in car parks may get run over''

well... so many young children get off the bus with their mums (yes, many mothers can't afford cars); & they actually have to walk down streets & cross roads & car parks just to get to the supermarket...
If a young child can't be trusted not to run away from their mum in a car park then they should be in a buggy or on reins; or sat in the seat of a trolley.

Learning how to safely cross a car park is an essential part of growing up - if you ferry your child to every door in a car; then you really are not doing them any favours!

To actually have a go at a disabled person for parking in a P&C space which was one of many free parking spaces was just mean.

Yes, & i wonder why were the disabled spaces further from the door than the P&C spaces?? If so then that's really bad planning!!

if you can't get your children across a car park without them being mown down, how do you manage to leave the house with them at all?

I also love the idea that swearing equals lack of intelligence.

I am bright enough. I still think if people need to fuck off it is only reasonable to tell them. And certainly not as dimwitted as offering to give people your address so you can, presumably, get together to 'sort it aaart'

You can also post fuck on here just like that. No need for *

Fuck the addresses. Let's all meet outside Tescos. Bring your tool. No faces.

And when they say it shows a lack of vocabulary...no dear, these are more words than you use, I have a larger vocabulary, clearly. Knobjockeys.

Which Tesco Paggy?

I'll bring a hand grenade.

Not telling you Tiggy.

Pageswatch

I'll bring my chair and park myself in various spaces

Anyone for a hummus and knotted roll fight outside Waitrose?

I'll bring some jammy dodgers.

Eh, no. duchy ginger snaps please.

Perhaps they didn't actually have a blue badge and the parent and child parking was the only option. Some people find it quite hard to get a blue badge thanks to doctors not filling in forms properly or not believing that it is necessary.
Just wanted to add my YABveryveryU. I use a mobility scooter, these threads wind me right up. On the other one about banning scooters from pavements I was told I am a 'menace'

Disabled people can park anywhere they want and anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid.

However, when one of these threads comes up, someone will ALWAYS come on and say that they park in P&C spaces even when they dont have any kids with them, just to prove a point. All it really proves is that that person is a prick.

Don't have a car, so don't care who parks in p&c parking. However, I would like a Word with All The Bastards who jam their stanard trolleys in front of the twin trolleys so that I have to pull twenty trolleys out to get to them. This even happens in supermarkets which have a Specific Line for the twin trolleys. Just because it's at the end. Learn to walk an exctra metre, you selfish gits.

I swore at someone on this thread,
sometimes you get fed up with explaining time and time again to people who just don't care

Has anyone told me I'm unreasonable yet?

P&T = a nice convenience laid on for parents with small kids. in the course of their existence, they may have saved the lives of a very small number of children in car park accidents. I use them often, being English, I will even queue to do so.

blue badge spaces = a provision which makes it possible for people with blue badges to get about more easily. Of course they can also use the P&T spaces. One couple used to park in the bus stop at the front of our local Sainsburys as they weren't happy crossing the 'road' to get to the store. the management were fine with that. Whatever made it easy for them to get along.

contrary to the opinion of some, both kinds of space can exist without causing a breakdown in the time/ (parking) space continuum.

P&T spaces should not be parked in by the able and child-unencumbered, who can probably shimmy out of their car without the doors being opened wider than Dumbo's ears.

yet it is important to respect the blue badge holders right to park wherever the Jeff they want, including P&T spaces.

How do you know they had a blue badge?

They might not be disabled, just old and not able to walk very far. I think in those circumstances it would be better to use P and C than to illegally use a disabled space.

My mum is very obese and has osteo arthritis in her knees. She can't easily walk more than 5 minutes and can't walk up and down hills. When she's a bit older I imagine she will jump at the chance of using a mobility scooter. But she isn't disabled so she won't get a blue badge. Parking can be a nightmare with her, I often have to drop her off and go and park miles away because I'm a crap parker and can't do tight spaces . You just don't know these people's circumstances.

In general though, I think there is a poor attitude on here of using P and C spaces almost intentionally to piss others off. They may not be legally enforcable and they may not be necessary but, as they are there and labelled, I wouldn't have the bare faced nerve to use one without reason, it would be disrespectful and pointless.