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AIBU?

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To think 7:30am is a perfectly reasonable time for young children to get up

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lechatnoir · 30/08/2012 13:28

I've just come back from holiday with my family that all went well except for a daily debate about what the time the kids should get up!
We've always known my DC get up much earlier than DN's so I equipped mine with a clock, torch, books, toys etc & told them to stay quietly in their room til 8am knowing it could be nearer to their usual get up time of 7:30. On the first day they slept until 7:50 & when everyone else surfaced SIL kept commenting that my nephew would be really grumpy without his sleep and it was far too early to start the day on your holidays. I agree that 7:30 can't be classed a lie-in but really can't imagine many young children are tucked up asleep past 8am & expecting my DC to creep around until 9am is every bit as 'selfish' as mine are for being up & about before 8.
Maybe I was being overly sensitive but I really felt she was suggesting we were to blame for allowing them up at such an ungodly hour and if we just laid down the law they'd sleep in like her DC. So as not to be accused of drip feeding, we would take them downstairs & shut the kitchen door and wouldn't allow the usual noise but my DC are very much up & raring to go in the morning & definitely not the silent types

AIBU waking her kids up at this time or is she being unreasonable in expecting to sleep in?
LCN
Ps kids are 2, 3, 6, 6 & 7

OP posts:

Shellywelly1973 · 30/08/2012 17:39

It doesn't matter what time my dc go to bed they are always up early.

They get grumpier&grumpier if they go to bed late but still get up early.

I remember last winter nearly crying if cbeebies hadn't started when the little darlings woke up!!

I have two grown up dc & they were the total opposite...

I would love love love to still be in bed at 7am when my alarm goes off!

glenthebattleostrich · 30/08/2012 17:54

Send her to my house and she'll find out what early waking is. My delightful 2 year old wakes up any time between 3:30 and 5:30. I still bf her just so I can lie in bed a bit longer!

WhispersOfWickedness · 30/08/2012 17:55

Ooo, 7.30 would be a treat in this house (ds 2.8 and dd 12 mo)
For those suggesting keeping them up later, for some bizarre reason, ds gets up even earlier if he goes to bed late

Harleyband · 30/08/2012 18:01

I suspect your SIL is drugging her children. Wish I'd thought of it. We're all up at 6 here weekend, holiday, any day!

Margerykemp · 30/08/2012 18:51

I'd like to know what time all these early risers are being put to bed and going to sleep at?

Also what has always baffled me is why is a 5am wakening considered wakening for the day and not night wakening?

When mine were babies I considered pre 8 am wakenings night feeds and put them back to sleep accordingly.

But I'm happy with mine to be up til 9/10 at night midnight on holidays

MrsTerryPratchett · 30/08/2012 19:03

Smug, smug, smug Margerykemp. My DD needs 10 hours maximum every night. And, that is new and wonderful, she used to wake every two hours and not sleep that much. Do you want the list of things I have tried, because it will crash your computer with it's hugeness?

Some children, just like adults, need less sleep. I can get DD to sleep until 8am but that involves her getting to bed at 10am. Not my cup of tea. Less nap, more nap, earlier, later, controlled crying, begging and weeping at her, co-sleeping, cot in a different room, wake to sleep... Need I go on?

MrsTerryPratchett · 30/08/2012 19:03

10pm, obviously.

DowntonOut · 30/08/2012 19:05

Margery, I leave for work at 8am. Why would I train my child to sleep so late? And you cannot expect a two year old to distinguish between weekdays and weekends, or home and holiday.

And as many other posters have said, the time we put them to bed does not matter, they still wake early. And the manner is very different from night waking to waking for the day. I have a great sleeper, but she she does wake in the night she is tearful or scared. When she wakes for the day, she is an energetic bundle of smiles and songs. Why would I leave her locked in a room while I'm up, going about my business?

GetDownNesbitt · 30/08/2012 19:12

Dear god, I'd sell my legs for a 7.30am lie in!

janelikesjam · 30/08/2012 19:13

How about everyone waking up naturally

LineRunnerFlameBurning · 30/08/2012 19:22

Crikey, my DC's school day starts at 8.20am!

QuenelleOJersey2012 · 30/08/2012 19:34

We found a way to get DS to sleep until 7.30-8am: go on holiday to France where everything's an hour later .

We won't be going west until he's old enough to amuse himself in the mornings. And bring us breakfast in bed.

QuenelleOJersey2012 · 30/08/2012 19:34

We found a way to get DS to sleep until 7.30-8am: go on holiday to France where everything's an hour later .

We won't be going west until he's old enough to amuse himself in the mornings. And bring us breakfast in bed.

TraineeBabyCatcher · 30/08/2012 19:37

For me 'normal' rising time is between 7-730, anything before that (say 6-7) would be early, and anything after (say 730-8) is a bit of a lay in- with potential to be late, after 8 generally means mad rush to get sorted.
Holidays are whenever we all rock out of bed, ds often jumps in with me for an extra hour if we are not busy.
IMO even though you were on holiday your SIL was BU.

Margerykemp · 30/08/2012 20:21

mrs terry- why is it smug? I've simply said I prefer a 10pm-8am routine to a 8pm-6am routine.

I'm not a morning person- it isnt a crime.

nokidshere · 30/08/2012 20:25

Mine always woke up between 5:30 and 6am until they were about 4 years old - it was klnackering but not abnormal in our house. After that they woke around 6:30/7 until just recently. And it didn't matter what time we put them to bed, they still woke at the same time and then were grumpy because they hadn't had enough sleep.

I am happy to report that now they are 11 & 13 I haven't seen them before 9:30am all through the holidays!!!!

Otheregos · 30/08/2012 20:30

Op I'll come on holiday with you next time...see how she handles 530 every morning

Iggly · 30/08/2012 20:31

Yes 7.30am is a reasonable time.

However my DS and DD disagree.

Otheregos · 30/08/2012 20:32

getdownnesbitt think Id throw in my legs too!

MrsTerryPratchett · 30/08/2012 20:34

Margerykemp leave me to my bitter and twisted hatred of anyone who gets to sleep at all since I have had none for over 2 years now. Or, I apologise for being mean. Whichever you'd rather. I'll admit that I missed the bit about going to bed later

RedBlanket · 30/08/2012 20:43

DS goes to bed at 8, gets up at 6am
DS goes to bed at 10, gets up at 6am

I'd think there was something wrong with him if he wasn't up by 730.
However he knows to be quiet and not disturb anyone.

OHforDUCKScake · 30/08/2012 20:49

Im envious that yours sleep until 7.30!

Booboobedoo · 30/08/2012 20:57

Mine are up before six every day.

It doesn't matter what time I put them to bed.

Also, DD often wakes every two hours.

All night.

bruschetta · 30/08/2012 21:03

you are illustrating just one of four thousand reasons I wouldn't holiday with extended family or friends.
My 22 month old DS wakes at 5 every day btw so your SIL would have a fit if she stayed in the same house as us overnight.

jellybeans · 30/08/2012 21:09

It would be too early for me. We spent years sleep deprived with DTs and DS with severe reflux. We get up early for school etc and always lie in past 9 at weekends and holidays. Would be a rubbish holiday otherwise!

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