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AIBU to want my car back?

73 replies

SpottedGurnard · 24/08/2012 14:50

My parents helped me out by buying me a 2nd hand car a couple of years ago. They had helped my brother out moneywise when he swanned off around the world for a year and wanted to treat me equally.

A year or so later I got a job with a company car which I knew from the start wouldnt be a long term job, so I wanted to keep my much loved first car so I had somethinf when it ended.

I put my car through its mot (£500 :-() and taxed it and asked ny brother if he would drive it to keep it running for me. He didnt want it, it was too girly and I had to really persuade him. His car was scrapped so he begrudginly agreed.

A year later and I have left my job. I now live somewhere very remote. Brother still lives at home (as always) and is going back to uni but staying at home. He had saved up money for uni but has just been to africa for a month and bought a brand new laptop.

He says he has no intention of giving it back ( had to sign it over for insurance reasons) and has no money for a new car.

AIBU to want it back? I have no money to buy a car as I live in the real world and have had rent and unexpectedly high bills to pay.

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BoneyBackJefferson · 25/08/2012 12:34

HappySunflower

Registered keeper is not the same as owner of the vehicle. In many cases they will not let you insure a vehicle if you are not the registered keeper.

OP, sorry about your exams.

TBH if my parents did this to me I would cut my loses and run. Or at very least have minimal contact with them.

HappySunflower · 25/08/2012 12:39

I meant owner, not registered keeper.

HappySunflower · 25/08/2012 12:40

and yes- I agree, I think that this kind of treatment would be a deal breaker for me tbh.
If I've understood correctly, you are staying with your parents this weekend?
If so, what's to stop you picking up the keys and just driving yourself home in your car?

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 25/08/2012 12:40

No, she did not transfer ownership.

Sadly, she can't prove that she didn't transfer ownership.

HappySunflower · 25/08/2012 12:42

Surely he has to prove that she did, or is that just wishful thinking?

SpottedGurnard · 25/08/2012 12:45

What'd stopping me? Insurance and the fact that he will report it as stolen, my parents will back him up and I will be in the shit.

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Socknickingpixie · 25/08/2012 13:08

no you wont, you can transfer it back to you using a replacement v whatever form from the post office, get insured if he calls the police its a civil matter.
and parents would be fine as it would be regestered in your name.

or you could just put it down to experance and a valuble lesson in life that being you cannot trus

Socknickingpixie · 25/08/2012 13:10

t your family.

i personally would be amused at taking it back but if you wouldnt then dont.

sorry about the split message my dc's foot posted it halfway

IvanaNap · 25/08/2012 14:14

Take the tax disc then, and any of the parts you paid for when doing the mot. They are yours, after all.

IvanaNap · 25/08/2012 14:15

or just leave the fucker with his stolen car up on bricks

Socknickingpixie · 25/08/2012 14:57

no point in taking tax disk only the reg keeper thats printed on docs by dvla can claim refund even if you sell it.

BoneyBackJefferson · 25/08/2012 15:01

And he would just get a replacement by reporting it as stolen.

Socknickingpixie · 25/08/2012 15:12

boney if he did that in the knowledge that it hasnt been stolen its just that the actual owner has taken it back he would not get a replacement he would risk fraud allegations.

he could report it stolen as much as he wanted same as the op could but its just desputed ownership as such a civil matter (even tho the police could deal with it they wouldnt after hearing the legal owners version)

BoneyBackJefferson · 25/08/2012 15:19

The DVLA would be able to re-issue as the DVLA has his name and address as the person that they sent the last tax disc to. This wouldn't change unless the OP reported the V5 lost and requested a new V5 with her name on it.

Socknickingpixie · 25/08/2012 15:31

if you mean the tax disk, they can only now send a refund to him even if the v5 is changed. they changed the rules a while ago,i know this because in feb this year i sold 3 cars and brought 2 in the two i brought the previous owner sold the cars as taxed untill when ever (fairly new tax disks) but did the old "shit ive left stuff in glove box" and swiped tax disks. nothing i could do about it.also due to my own daftness i had not yet registered one of mine in my name (brought off a friend in dire need but kinda hoping he would be in possition to get it back) he decided he didnt want it back so i sold it got refund but they sent it to him as he was reg keeper even tho i had filled out paperwork befor i sold it and dvla had recived it.

its the reg keeper at time of taxing that can claim refund a garrage cant even do it now

BoneyBackJefferson · 25/08/2012 15:52

I didn't know that

Socknickingpixie · 25/08/2012 16:00

neither did i when i didnt register the car because i was being kind,so not only did i buy a car i didnt want that i hardley used just to help the previous owner but he got a unexpected bonus of 11 months tax refund that he claims he never recived despite the dvla confirming cheque has been cashed (he handed me that letter just not the one that was obviously the refund)

TheFogsGettingThicker · 25/08/2012 16:13

Shock There are some really shitty people about, aren't there? Sad

neuroticmumof3 · 25/08/2012 18:35

your family are twats. i vote for minimal contact from now on. can't you snoop around and find the original car receipt while you're at home? if you had that you'd be able to take action through the small claims court.

anonacfr · 25/08/2012 23:03

I can't believe this. I'd be way more upset with your parents in your shoes.

I mean how can they back him? It's shocking.

clam · 25/08/2012 23:26

OK, so if you really feel that you cannot just take your car back (and that's how you must keep referring to it, your car), then before you leave you must state very clearly to your parents (and brother) how unfairly they're behaving. Tell them there is no moral basis for their argument whatsoever, and how hut you are that this is their position. Then leave. And do not contact them or respond to them for whatever period of time you feel appropriate.
If they want to favour your brother over you to this extent, then they need to feel the consequences of that.

SpottedGurnard · 26/08/2012 00:13

Clam- that is my plan and it pains me to even think about it. I will stay away at Christmas so who knows when I will see them next.

Now just need to somehow find a job that is local enough to walk to so that I can attempt to get some money to buy a car so I can get a better job. Its going to be a slow process and I hope they will finally see they have prioritised bro over me.

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Maryz · 26/08/2012 00:41

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