AIBU to want my car back?

[SpottedGurnard]

My parents helped me out by buying me a 2nd hand car a couple of years ago. They had helped my brother out moneywise when he swanned off around the world for a year and wanted to treat me equally.

A year or so later I got a job with a company car which I knew from the start wouldnt be a long term job, so I wanted to keep my much loved first car so I had somethinf when it ended.

I put my car through its mot (£500 :-() and taxed it and asked ny brother if he would drive it to keep it running for me. He didnt want it, it was too girly and I had to really persuade him. His car was scrapped so he begrudginly agreed.

A year later and I have left my job. I now live somewhere very remote. Brother still lives at home (as always) and is going back to uni but staying at home. He had saved up money for uni but has just been to africa for a month and bought a brand new laptop.

He says he has no intention of giving it back ( had to sign it over for insurance reasons) and has no money for a new car.

AIBU to want it back? I have no money to buy a car as I live in the real world and have had rent and unexpectedly high bills to pay.

I do have the receipt for repairs but who would I show it to? All my parents would have to do is say that they didnt give it to me as a gift (which they did) and the case falls apart.

My brother told me he has insured the car for the next year and he couldnt possibly cancel the policy and get the remainder back .

Seriously shouldve just sold the car. Its not even a banger, why would I just give it away?!

I cant even look at my brother right now and I have to make it through the rest of the weekend before I go home.

You can transfer the policy, surely? He is being a git, by the way.

Can't actually believe your parents are backing him up, why are they doing that?!

Ivana- seriously, I have no idea. I have asked for nothing from them since I moved out 18 months ago. They came to stay with me for their holiday last month for a week, I fed them and will bear the brunt of the increase in my water meter readings. I also bought a spare bed for them to sleep in.All so they could have a free holiday.

All the while my brother doesnt contribute a penny to their bills. Has 2 computers and a tv on all the time hes not at work. I know hes been earning good money too.

I don't get what Ive done to make them treat me like this.

You know what, write it off (figuratively!) instead ask for - no, demand - £500 for the money you spent on it so you can put it towards a new car. If he pleads poverty say
1 not your problem
2 he can afford xyz
3 your parents could loan him the 500 to give you, he can sort his own arrangements for repaying them

If your parents get involved in discussion, point out how this is starting to upset you - that they cannot see the injustice and are taking sides.

YES you are both adults and this is all very teenage at its core, but you have been mightily screwed over.

Maybe give him a bill for the car and MOT - "since you are keeping the car, this is how much you owe me..."

All he would do is refuse to pay. Who is going to make him?

I really just cannot be bothered anymore with all of this. If my parents cannot see how unfairly they are treating me, and he cannot see that he has stolen a car from me then they can fuck the fuck off.

I really cannot see how Im supposed to transport myself to work without transport but Ill get some money somehow. Of course cycling would be a solution but he took my bike to use as his and broke it. And then there's the desk that was a birthday present that he has taken into his room now and put his huge flatscreen tv, soundsystem, desktop and laptop onto.

Your brother sounds like a dick of the highest order.

Wait patiently until he puts the keys down, pick them up and drive yourself home. If he comes to you full of ire, calmly tell him you have no intention of returning the car until he pays you market value for it.

what a nasty immature twat your brother is

what desperately suggests sounds like a good idea

It's probably not strictly legal but I would be thinking about sending the registration documents off to change the registered keeper back to your name, get it insured and just drive off in it. Tell him you have no intention of giving it back!

Borrow a friends car, park across the driveway, effectively blocking him in rendering him useless. Preferably your parents too - they will soon get involved then!!

Alternatively remove the fuse box from both cars, easy to do, expensive to buy a new one....if you can't drive neither can they!! Childish but effective!! X

God,what a little shit

OMG your brother is a total cunt and your parents are idiots too. Jesus some people have super bad luck with families

No real suggestion of how to help, but obviously YANBU.

Do you have any paperwork from when you bought the car? Can you get access to a key?

If so can you just go and take it back? Your dick-head of a brother can't prove ownership.

I would find it very hard to have anything to do with the brother or parents after this.

I would do exactly as Nancy 75 said.

I think you said you're at your parents this weekend?

I would take the keys and drive it home!

Or what maryz said (if you've no car insurance), take his lap top and say tough! I feel sad for you re your parents attitude

And to top things all off I just bombed the once yearly medical school entrance exam leaving me stuck in limbo for the next 2 years.

Fuck. This. Shit.

Do not take anything of your brother's

unfortunately this could/will be seen as theft, should he take it to the police.

Taking bits off the car or the car itself would be a grey issue.
You say that you own the car, he says he owns the car, you have proof that you paid for bits and that you want them back etc.

if it were my car and i was apsolutly certain that i had made it very clear that it was a temp loan.and hadnt given him personally a receipt for the car. i would go visit and just take the keys and drive off in it.

and just see what he does next.

unless ofcourse your parents stance on the matter is that it was not a gift to you.they were loaning it to you also and are now loaning it to him,if thats the case they would probally cease to be part of my life,as i dont involve myself with people who treat others like that

out of intrest are your parents compleatly refusing to get involved or are they backing him up? there is a difference

take everything that is yours from your parents house. (not the car) do not let them stay at your expense again. you can legitimately say that you can not afford it as you need to buy another car. take back your bike. do not buy them presents or cards as you are saving to buy another car, smile sweetly and say you are sure they iwll understand and then it is more difficult for them to kick off about it without looking like the idiots they are.

sorry about your exams... good luck for next time.

Pixie- they are backing him. They say because his name is on the registration document that it's his.

Oh, so you actually signed it over to him- as in, he is now the registered keeper?
Why did you do that if you wanted it back?

I imagine she signed it over so that the registered keeper would be responsibke for his own speeding, parking etc fines. And because, y'know, kt's the law.