To hunt down and throw rotten fish at..

[TheQueenOfDiamonds]

People who don't vaccinate their bloody children?
My child has Measles.
He is fully up to date with all his vaccinations. How is this bloody fair? It was virtually unheard of until this business a few years ago when everyone suddenly decided not to vaccinate.
Well thanks a lot!!!! AND NOW LOOK!!!! I'M ABUSING EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not happy.

A vaccine is a mild dose of the measles disease. Therefore your child may have come into contact with a freshly vaccinated child and caught it that way. Although if your child vaccinated, how has she contracted full blown measles?

Jumping - I don't know, I didn't think you could either, apparently you can though, i shall return shortly with pics

That's so young to have it poor little thing.

Can I ask if he's had his mmr as I didn't think they could have the mmr until 12 mths. I only ask as my ds is 3 months so just wondered

yanbu!

I wasn't vaccinated as a kid and I had measles and german measles

It's nasty, I hope he makes a full recovery

It may not be someone elses child - the child is heaving with foreign nationals who do not have vaccination programmes in their own country.

Logic would dictate, your child is the the one in X million for whom a vaccine doesnt work fully.

Have you seen your GP and had a confirmed diagnosis?

I mean the country is heaving with foreign nationals etc .... not the child. [oopsie]

At 10 months he wouldn't have had the MMR yet so he wouldn't have been vaccinated against measles. If he has had the MMR as an out of schedule vaccination he probably hasn't mounted a sufficient immune response to protect him against the measles virus.

The immune system of a child under one is not mature enough to produce an adequate response to the vaccine.

IIRC ds 1 didnt have his mmr till 1

Measles is highly contagious and airborne, so it you don't have to be in close contact with someone to catch it - just being in the same room/bus/plane/train as someone who has it is enough (or even in a room someone with measles has recently been in, I think).

You can't catch it from someone who has just been vaccinated because the virus used in the vaccine is dead/deactivated.

Vaccines are effective in most people but it's never 100% effective first-time round. There are always a few people in whom it doesn't trigger the immune response, which is why most things are given twice, and if you're really unlucky the booster doesn't work either. But if everyone gets vaccinated, the chances of encountering the disease are reduced to a minimum so even the people for whom the vaccine failed are protected (= herd immunity).

Hope your DS gets better soon.

Well, I'd confuse ya, DS is vaccinated, DD isn't - I have my reasons.

I was fully vaccinated and caught it- same with whooping cough, thank god my mother decided against the smallpox and polio vaccine. In fact every vaccine I've had, I had an allergic reaction to or it hasn't worked

Measles was awful, so you have my sympathies and I hope your LO is better soon. But, be warned, if you throw rotten fish at me it'll be right back at'ya!

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Top two are my son, Bottom is the vaccs he's had, I took the wrong red book for the 16 week ones though (I have two) so they filled them in on a separate sheet and its in my big folder somewhere lol

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Mango - That makes sense, i was getting confused by my red book then, i thought the mmr was the 16 week one. I'm a dippy cow.

Why are you blaming the children who haven't been vaccinated? Do you know the route cause of the outbreak? Could have been a holiday maker passing it on to a child who wasn't up-to-date with vaccinations.

Name - Because its common sense. People stopped vaccinating en masse, now we have children catching measles en masse..

And i'm not blaming the children, i'm blaming their parents.

You're just tried and worried.

But throw the fish in tony Blairs direction.

I was vaccinated and still got mumps when I was about 3. I vaguely remember it being horrendous. Vaccination isn't a 100% guarantee that you'll never get the disease, but hopefully anyone who DOES catch it won't have as severe symptoms as they would have had without the vaccination.

What worries me about the rising number of unvaccinated children is the increased opportunity for diseases to mutate. We've seen it with flu however many times. A new strain of measles doesn't bear thinking about.

He's not had the measles vaccination yet TheQueen. The measles vaccination is part of the MMR, it's the one given at 12-13 months.

From your picture he's had:
Diptheria
Tetanus
Polio
Pneumococcus
Haemophilus influenzae b
Whooping cough
Meningitis C

I can't believe i didn't realise they're not given MMR till 12 months. i feel well stupid now!

Griphook - Lol im knackered. I've been awake since 9am YESTERDAY morning. I've got to walk the bloody dogs yet or else they'll drive me mad all night.

sorry cross posted

This article puts it all very clearly: An epidemic of fear: how panicked parents skipping shots endangers us all.

I despirately want to vaccinate my son. I want to avoid measles as much as possible (I worry with his asthma and eczema that he would get it worse than a normal child). Problem being Drs not agreeing on whether it is safe for him to have given his allergy.
But believe me when I say as soon as they deem it safe he will be vacinated. DD is vaccinated - and has had the pre school booster MMR as well.
Please don't throw fish at me.

Just out of curiosity Littleprincess what allergy does your son have? Mine is allergic to egg but his immunologist said that it was fine to have the MMR as does AllergyUK.

Legitimate medical reasons do not require fish being thrown at them! You are following medical advise, absolutely correctly! If you are told by a medical professional not to vaccinate, you absolutely listen to that!

It's people who google one or two articles for no reason and then refuse, and encourage all their friends, with a bit of embellishment that i want to throw fish at, because they're defeating the point of vaccinating, and making already vulnerable children (IE ones who CANT have vacs) even more vulnerable.