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To think that the paralympics should happen...

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Secrecy · 17/08/2012 20:54

... before the Olympic Flame is extinguished and the flag is handed over!

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ddubsgirl · 17/08/2012 21:03

its not a bolt on,its it own event,they will have own flame relay though the uk etc own opening and own closing.

Secrecy · 17/08/2012 21:04

Yes it has it's own history - BUT it's Olympics - celebration and sport - why separate us? Even if paralympics came after. Why continue to hold the events separately. After all (and again, am no expert, only offer opinion, women in Olympics probably weren't there at the 'start'.

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BulldogDrummond · 17/08/2012 21:05

There was an Olympic Games some years ago where the Paralympics was interwoven with the able bodied contestants. That would be a much better version. It might of have been Sydney but I can't remember. Beijing?

Secrecy · 17/08/2012 21:05

Gary - I am not 'daft' - I just think differently to you!

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OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 17/08/2012 21:05

One reason it can't be a continuation of the Olympics is that all the athletes would have to stay around for too long before having the closing ceremony

There is no reason the Paralympics shouldn't be separate, it's the perception of it that needs to change.

ddubsgirl · 17/08/2012 21:06

History of the Paralympics

History of the Paralympics

Canada's Paralympic History

INTRODUCTION

The Paralympic Summer Games are the second largest sporting event in the world today, the first largest being the Olympic Games. In a relatively short time, the Paralympic Winter Games has established itself as a major event on the Olympic calendar. The winter event made its debut in 1976 in Ornskoldsvik, Sweden - but the concept is much older.

It is amazing to think that the Paralympic Games had their humble beginnings just over fifty years ago, in Stoke Mandeville Hospital in Aylesbury, England. The earliest beginnings of the creation of athletic Games for people with disabilities can be traced back to World War II and the efforts of a doctor from England named Ludwig Guttmann. Known as
the ?Father of Sport for People with Disabilities,? Dr. Guttmann was a strong advocate of using sports therapy to enhance the quality of life for people who were injured or wounded during World War II.

Dr. Guttmann organized the 1948 International Wheelchair Games to coincide with the 1948 London Olympics. His dream was of a worldwide sports competition for people with disabilities to be held every four years as ?the equivalent of the Olympic Games.? Twelve years later, his dream became a reality.

The first Paralympic Games were held in Rome, Italy, in 1960 and involved 400 athletes from 23 countries. Originally, only wheelchair athletes were invited to compete. Since that time, the Paralympic Games have grown dramatically. The present-day Paralympic Games include five major classifications of athletes: persons with visual impairments, persons with physical disabilities, amputee athletes, people with cerebral palsy, people with spinal cord injuries and Les Autres - athletes with a physical disability that are not included in the categories mentioned above (e.g., people with Muscular Dystrophy).

The Paralympics are held in two seasons: summer and winter. Athletes with disabilities have been competing in the Winter Games since 1976. Sweden hosted the first Winter Games, which included 12 countries competing in Alpine and Cross-Country Skiing events. Initially the Paralympic and Olympic Games were implemented at different times, but in 1992 the approach was modified. Now the Paralympic and Olympic Games are held within two weeks of each other using the same venues and the same organising committee.

Sir Ludwig Guttmann died in 1980, but his vision of sport for athletes with disabilities continues today. Clearly the value of sport in the lives of athletes with disabilities extends far beyond its rehabilitative benefits. Sportsmanship, camaraderie and an active lifestyle are other important benefits. The athletic talents of competitors with disabilities are becoming recognized worldwide, just as Dr. Guttmann intended. The skill and talent of high-performance athletics and competition are evident in the performance of today?s Paralympians from all nations.

princelypurpleparrot · 17/08/2012 21:06

It's not a bolt-on, it's a separate event. I confess I did think it was a bit sad that the flame was extinguished but now I understand much more about the Paralympics, it's origins etc.

Try to not let trying to be too pc stop you from understanding what it's about (and this is from the most PC person who drives my family mad Grin!)

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 17/08/2012 21:07

What they should do is sort out their bloody seating policy for wheelchair users and their families
Because people with disabilities have partners and children not just carers.

Secrecy · 17/08/2012 21:08

Am not PC - but do feel that a separate event for disabled people is ... well, no more right than a separate event for women. I just don't. Will agree to disagree with all who do!

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ClaireDeTamble · 17/08/2012 21:09

The Paralympics is completely separate to the Olympics - it's like suggesting that the African Cup of Nations should be tagged on to the end of the European Championships.

They are not a bolt-on now, but if they became part of the Olympics then they would be nothing more than a bolt on. It would become nothing more than a side show.

They have different histories and different governing bodies.

There was an interview with an ex-paralympian on the radio the other day (I missed the start and didn't catch his name), but he said, when asked whether the Para's should be part of the Olympics, that he didn't think it was a good idea and that the general feeling amongst the athletes was that they didn't want their games to be lost in the Olympic mele.

WorraLiberty · 17/08/2012 21:09

OP have you read any of the explanations given to you?

Kladdkaka · 17/08/2012 21:10

But the disabled people want it that way. If they wanted to be merged into the regular games they would campaign for it, but they don't.

Secrecy · 17/08/2012 21:10

Ohdo - I agree!

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WorraLiberty · 17/08/2012 21:11

And they don't have to adapt the venues and Olympic village for women.

Secrecy · 17/08/2012 21:11

Worra - yes - I will agree to disagree Grin - will you?

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GaryTankCommander · 17/08/2012 21:12

It was your separate games for women and separate games for disabled people comment... Hell why did you stop there, surely disabled women should have their own event?

The Paralympics is a separate event, they are a separate organisation, have a separate torch relay and opening and closing ceremony. I'm sure they (the governing body) prefer it that way... It's their games, their opportunity to shine in their athletic disciplines.

ClaireDeTamble · 17/08/2012 21:13

It is a continuation of the Olympics

No, it's PARALLEL to the Olympics, hence it's name Hmm

WorraLiberty · 17/08/2012 21:13

How can you agree to disagree when you clearly haven't had time to read and absorb the clear answers to your questions?

Did you even read ddubsgirl's post?

calamityalice · 17/08/2012 21:14

But it's a different event, it's like saying why don't the world championships share the flame too?

GaryTankCommander · 17/08/2012 21:14

I'm about to watch 'the best of men' on iplayer, about the formation o the Paralympics. I think this Paralympics will be the greater Paralympics that has ever been... It's sold out, it will be heavily televised. I can't wait to trend!

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 17/08/2012 21:15

The Paralympic games are different to the Olympics, but theres nothing wrong with that, so there's no reason why they shouldn't be separate. They aren't the same thing. That doesn't make them less worthy, we shouldn't be trying to make them into the same thing. We need to celebrate them because they are different but in their own right.

Secrecy · 17/08/2012 21:15

OK! OK! I am unreasonable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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BlackberryIce · 17/08/2012 21:15

They are making cast adaptations to the Olympic park right now..... Op, how do you propose that the 2 operate at the same time bearing in mind the different requirements?

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