Miriam Stoppard is an idiot who should not be allowed to spout this rubbish about bf

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Some of my La Leche League friends have just shown me this and I am totally surprised that this supposed 'doctor' can spout this crap in a national newspaper?!

www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/health/when-should-you-stop-breast-feeding-1259599

And then we discover she has links to Nestle... what a surprise...

boycottnestle.blogspot.co.uk/2008/02/nestle-panic-miriam-stoppard.html

Miriam Stoppard you should be ashamed of yourself for writing this totally innacurate rubbish.

So, let's take the 'evil' formula away. What happens next?

Shag very patronising last post.
Do you always try to undermine a person's intelligence when they don't agree with you?

UNICEF have feeding centres set up to help support bf mothers.

This is an article from 2007, thirty years after the first call to boycott Nestle. This is the damage artifical feeding can do.

And this is why people are Miriam Stoppard should not be allowed to sprout their crap about breastfeeding, when they are employed by companies that do this to babies.

Kitty if formula was taken away in these scenarios, there would be a drastic fall in infant mortality rates. So yes, lets take it away, and take away the power these companies are manipulating over vulnerable individuals.

You do realise that formula company's arnt aloud to give away free formula or even sell it at a discount anymore to stop things like that happening again

Really? You want aid workers to take away formula from malnourished babies who's mums are too ill to feed them adequately? So when the mother is well enough to resume feeding she won't have any baby to feed

Kitty if formula was taken away in these scenarios, there would be a drastic fall in infant mortality rates. So yes, lets take it away, and take away the power these companies are manipulating over vulnerable individual I disagree about taking it away but agree about large corporate companies and their methods.

As moomins said.

If someone can't tell the difference between aid workers giving seriously malnourished babies top ups of formula while making the mothers well enough to resume feeding themselves, and unscrupulous formula company's giving away free formula when they know there is inadiqute water being used to make up the formula, I think I might seriously start pearl clutching myself.

moomins This thread has gone very quiet. I think your point has been heard :o and as you are right, there is nothing anyone can come back with.

I honestly can't believe that some people are so anti ff that they would see babies die rather than formula be given in the short term.

I agree moomins.
I said up thread that I thought that some people have such passion for their cause that they lose sight of an ordinary person's right to choose (in our privileged society) and more scarily, the plight that these poor women are facing in such tragic circumstances.

I'm not anti FF when its needed. I'm anti babies dying. A formula top up, in an aid camp, a few times, with sufficient supplies to make it safely is one thing. But unfortunately that is just not the way things work in the long run - these companies just do not care. If you read the article I linked to slightly up thread, even some of the doctors are calling for formula to be made prescription only, in order to protect babies.

I don't want to see babies dying. Of course I don't. I want to see all babies being fed in a safe way - and withing these circumstances, that means breastfeeding. Formula made incorrectly in a developed country can be dangerous, the risks are scary when made with the resources these people are facing.

Ideally their situations would be entirely different, and they would be able to squabble like we have for the past 24hrs over a choice they made I truly hope that it is for them at some point, in our childrens lifetime, if it won't be in ours.

Sirboob this article backs what you are saying about the crisis in the 1970s but we are now 40 years on from when hygene, lack of education caused wide spread mortality. You must be aware that formula does not need to be made up with unclean water and that aid agencies distribute Sani-bottles, filled with ready made formula, sealed in a sterilised pack?
As a solution in a time of need, thank God.
Yes women should be helped too but where they are themselves starving it is unlikely that they will be in a position to feed their child.
They need long term aid.

And yet again aid is different to formula company's giving away free formula to those who arnt able to use it safely.

But as I've already said policy's have been put in place to stop this happening here I think it's 5-5.3

They do - initially. That does not continue. I completely agree with you about long term aid, and a few bottles of formula isn't long term at all.

sirboob they don't just give a few bottles. Really, Third world aid is more than that.