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to hope they keep the extended shopping hours on a sunday

303 replies

hawaiiWave · 13/08/2012 13:30

I am a bit of a loser shopaholic and I love the current extended shopping hours on s Sunday, my local town centre shops are now open 10-6. I love drive,but it seems to help traffic congestion too, as shoppers are less concentrated.

Aibu to wonder why there is a restriction in the first place?

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NowThenWreck · 13/08/2012 18:50

nitty-I spent about ten years in London! I still used the corner shops. I had good Turkish ones, where I bought most of my veg anyway, since it was cheaper and fresher than the supermarket.
But I am not advocating regular stocking up on essentials at corner shops. Just that they exist, and they might not for much longer, the way things are going.
My main point really is that it would be better to have a break in just buying stuff all the time. I quite like "boring" sundays though. My favorite Sunday activity would be a good walk followed by friends coming over, cooking, eating, talking, then watching a cosy murder on the telly later.
I can't stand coffee shops!

McHappyPants2012 · 13/08/2012 18:51

The high street is disappearing and something needs to be done about it.

With shops shut on a Sunday or reduced hours it means people will shop online instead. Retail worker don't want to work Sunday but lets face it most people are off weekends so this is there time to shop. If shops are shut 1/2 Sunday then more people shop online and where does it leave the high street.

In this day and age if I was going to go into retail I would rent a garage and have an online shop.

NowThenWreck · 13/08/2012 18:52

Er..I am not sure why I am being attacked for what I said. I don't live in a remotely rose tinted world! If only!
Yeah, I have a mobile phone. I still don't think it makes my life more organised. It just stops people ever committing to plans.
And I can't work weekends, unfortunately, as I am a lone parent and I don't have the childcare.

Baygreen · 13/08/2012 18:52

It's company policy regarding temps unfortunately,and tbh it's quite standard to have staff travelling that late across London,don't forget most don't live in central london so a commute out to Essex for example on the bus can take nearly 2 hours.cabs aren't an option either

EdgarOlymPic · 13/08/2012 18:56

sunday trading was the most intense trading period of the week - lots of demand. if the hours were permanent, people would be flocking as they do the rest of the day...

I worked in retail...most of my sunday crew were students, a few working mums - people who could only work weekends anyway.

and at 5.30 when i left, the night shift were already there to fill up - really extending opening hours just means shoppers get to be in the shop, not that workers are having a day off...

nittyclitty · 13/08/2012 18:56

Nowthenwreck
'My main point really is that it would be better to have a break in just buying stuff all the time.'

So you would like a collective break from buying things all the time even though some people may work Monday to Saturday (me) and Sunday is the only day without rushing before or after work for me to shop.

There are many people like me.

GothAnneGeddes · 13/08/2012 19:00

YABU. I think this move towards having a 24/7 society and expecting more and more people to work shifts is not good for our general happiness.

I was a shift worker for many years, now I work set days in the week and I feel it's improved my life so much.

It is one thing for shift work to be available, another for it to be the norm for much of society.

NowThenWreck · 13/08/2012 19:03

I understand why you are taking what I said so personally nitty, but I never used to work Monday to Friday (I mean NEVER pre kids) I always worked weird shifts, and weekends.
Now I too am rushing after work to grab stuff, usually dragging a disgruntled child with me.
I still appreciate that Sunday is a quieter day. The shops are actually open most of the day anyway, but there is still less traffic on a Sunday, and, yes, think a day when maybe you don't shop til you drop is a good thing.

altinkum · 13/08/2012 19:04

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EnjoyResponsibly · 13/08/2012 19:05

People in retail are pushed into working bank holiday and Sunday's already. They get paid utter shit money, and won't get anymore for working Sundays.

The trouble is that if Westfield or Land Securities decide that this is a good idea, they order the shops to stay open. That means all of them, including shops like travel agents and opticians who typically don't see a huge increase in footfall at 10.30pm when the shops go into late night mode in December.

I can shop with the best of them, but YABU.

WithoutCaution · 13/08/2012 19:07

Sabriel "What has happened in Retail is that the poor sods are told they have to work weekends and BHs. Sunday used to be double time, but now it's classed as a normal working day so they don't even get that. You can "opt out" of Sunday working in theory, but in practice they don't have to offer you alternative hours so you could find you lose a day's pay every week. When you are already on low pay who can afford to lose 20% of their income?"

All the retailers I've worked at have had an 'Opt In' for Sunday work. If you didn't opt in and offered to do overtime on a Sunday you were paid more and/or given an extra day off the week after (depending on the company). They couldn't force you to work overtime - They could try and guilt you into it but never force you - You couldn't chose to opt in/out of Saturday work though and very rarely did you get the 1-2 Saturdays off a month that the store manager promised (and was specified in your contract) even after the opening hours increased.

nittyclitty · 13/08/2012 19:09

I still stand by my original point that many of you that don't like "this 24/7 society" are perhaps hypocrites because most of you will eat out or drink out and stay in hotels over weekends.

LadyBeagleEyes · 13/08/2012 19:12

What's wrong with a 24/7 society though?
We live in different times, not everybody does office hours, Mon-Fri, 9-5.
Even the banks are open on Saturday, and people are wanting something to do on a Sunday.
I've always been quite happy to do weekends as long as I got my two days (or even one, sometimes) during the week.
I think we need to get rid of the idea that the weekend is something we all have, it isn't .

OwlLady · 13/08/2012 19:13

I work in retail and manage our shop on a Sunday and we take LOADS less so I can't see it happening

sorry to be so simplistic :o

LadyBeagleEyes · 13/08/2012 19:14

Cross posts again nittygritty Grin

OwlLady · 13/08/2012 19:15

we don't get extra for working sundays either (have done it for erm 8 years now) you get paid extra if you run a sunday but extra time for a sunday was thrown out long ago

LadyBeagleEyes · 13/08/2012 19:17

Sorry nittyclitty I meant.

nittyclitty · 13/08/2012 19:20

LadyBeagles Grin

nittyclitty · 13/08/2012 19:21

Owl Lady

Now simple supply and demand makes sense to me.

McHappyPants2012 · 13/08/2012 19:21

A little experiment those who don't want a 24/7 uk.

Sunday you are not allowed to use gas, electric, phones or Internet. People man these 24/7. If you go out no buying anything no even an ice cream at the park or a newspaper.

How many Sunday's would you manage

OwlLady · 13/08/2012 19:24

no apostrophe needed

nittyclitty · 13/08/2012 19:28

Following on from Mchappypants

No going on a train or bus, no museums, no fun fairs, no cinema or eating out.

JennyPiccolo · 13/08/2012 19:31

Am in Scotland and most supermarkets round here are open 24 hours. Can't really imagine Tesco etc doing that if it wasn't profitable.

VolAuVent · 13/08/2012 19:44

Where on this thread where anyone has suggested that no-one should work on Sundays? Confused

I don't think an extreme in either direction is helpful, with either all days being the same, or no work by anyone whatsoever on Sundays! I'm in favour of Sunday being a rest day in general but obviously with exceptions.

Tomorrow, go about your usual working day but imagine the day of the week is Sunday. A few people will have this as their day off but pretty much everything else is the same as usual. Still happy with that week in, week out?

Same rush hour, same TV shows, no reason to go out on Fri/Sat night in particular, same crowds. You'd like to arrange a social event but there's never a day when more than a third of your friends have the day off work. Everyone is jaded and no-one has any idea what it would be like if most people "slowed down" for a break once a week.

VolAuVent · 13/08/2012 19:46

(need cake and Brew, please excuse typos!) Should have said:

Where on this thread has anyone suggested that no-one should work on Sundays?