Aibu to not understand why anyone would want to drink a drink indorsed by a convicted rapist

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I was in tesco today and there is a new energy drink on sale made by mike Tyson and I was really shocked that firstly it was in sale in tesco and secondly that anyone would want to drink something made by a rapist. It made me wonder how low tesco will go. What next shipman shrimps.

Or aibu because the man was convicted and served his time so therefore deserves a second chance.

Am half way through a complain to tesco, but then I started to wonder. What do you think.

Why all the clamour to be an apologist because of a 'ghetto' background)? Being a rapist is being a rapist,whatever your socio-economic antecedents.
It worries me when people venerate violent thugs like this.

FastidiaBlueberry

Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean that it won't/can't happen, your logic is flawed.

I can link to women who have mutilated men and have been held up as heroines.

But in short you cannot prove your PoV to be correct because you have no evidence to back it up.

It remains suppostion etc.

'rape is a grey issue'
no it isn't. the man must have reasonable belief that the woman consents. so he says' is this ok?' and she says 'yes' where's the grey?
'male rape was legal until 1994'
rape in marriage was legal until 1991
who got that changed?

Boneyback - so at least now you admit it hasn't happened, you are just resting on the possibility that it might? Think that's the point at which you have to give up an argument, tbh.

Sorry, have I misread is someone comparing stealing because you are hungry with being a rapist? Some of you with your "indepth knowledge of american ghettos" could you please explain to me how you have come to the conclusion that black men from ghettos can't avoid becoming rapists? It seems an appallingly racist an ignorant stance so just wondering if you can back it up.

They buy it for the same reason people buy and listen to Chris Brown's songs. They don't give a shit.

Desire to rape, can't be fixed by someone saying "no that's bad, off to prison with you" like shoplifting can ffs. And stealing out of hunger... Unless you believe being hungry is the same as wanting sex and that a person can't help themselves

edam

"so at least now you admit it hasn't happened, you are just resting on the possibility that it might? Think that's the point at which you have to give up an argument, tbh."

yet the opposite arguement is equally as void, FastidiaBlueberry and Catgirl are basing their point on the possiblity that it won't happen.

FastidiaBlueberry's arguement (as I see it) is that those in the advertising trade hold men in high regard, yet they have shown men being hit, being stupid, being usless etc. i'e they have the same dim view of men as they do women.

If they thought that a male rapist would bring in revenue they would used him/her/it.

but neither FastidiaBlueberry or catgirl can prove their point anymore than I can prove mine. It is a PoV and my PoV of the original statement remains the same.

Advertising men show men as being thick and incompetent, only when it comes to domestic tasks or childcare.

thus re-inforcing gender roles.

I trust the men who object to being portrayed in that way, regularly write letters urging brand managers to drop the sexist stereotypes and show men doing their fair share properly.

Men are currently being shown as incompetent in stereotypical males roles as well. Halfords for example are currently doing a useless at car maintenance, and there is a DIY firm showing men not being able to do DIY.

"I trust the men who object to being portrayed in that way, regularly write letters urging brand managers to drop the sexist stereotypes and show men doing their fair share properly."

A different discussion but yes I do, in the same way that I complain about female gender stereotypes.

Rape is a serious crime and it should never be down played.

I still stand by that once you have done your time then it's over, unless part of the sentence is you are not allow to ever work with elderly, vunuable and children ( which I suspect he has because he is now a sex offender)

VegansTasteBetter I was making a point about rehabilitation, maybe you didn't understand my point, and explaining MT background not every single black American born in a ghetto.
Also vegan rape is not do with a man "wanting sex" its way more complex then that.

JuliaScurr Rape can be a grey issue, not every single rape is a mad man down a alley dragging you off somewhere. I would say most woman have had instances where its not quite consensual but not quite rape.

I don't get how you can say well once you have doen the time then its over apart from crimes you don't agree with, it should be a all or nothing.

I would say most woman have had instances where its not quite consensual but not quite rape.

If its not consensual then its rape, end of.

I have been raped and all this bullshitt about "ghettos" and shit is just that. A load of shit.

Where you live, what you wear or what colour your skin is doesn't define a rapist. Raping someone is a rapist no matter the background.

You could be blind drunk, you could do alot of foreplay you could be in the middle of sex. Once some one says NO and sex continues against your will it is rape.

I am shocked even after I believe you campaign on MN people still question if someone has been raped or not. Sex without consent is rape

I didn't even know he'd been to prison let alone raped someone.

My fiances aunts dog is called Tyson.

It's nice to people who feed it but attacks everyone else.

So I suppose pretty Tysony, no?

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Austin I was 15 and felt similar.

Ah yes, the grey area, the rapist's safe space

The grey area myth

More worried that people own these dogs! Who cares what they're called?!

LordOfThe5Rings

Er, no