to send 5y old dc to the corner shop for some ice cream?

[MousyMouse]

we just went. dc dropped their ice lolly and of course wants another one.
told dc to go on his own (no street to cross, maybe quarter of a mile) but he refuses. though. no ice lolly then.

Yabu - he is 5!

The tufty club was road safety for under 5's but was it really to allow that age group out alone?

5??? YABU

the Tufty Club was popular in the 1950s/1960s when there was only about 6 cars a lot left traffic about

i know, i had a badge

left?

pass me the someone, it's been a frigging long week

I wouldn't send my (admittedly ditzy) 8yo that far with no adult. So yes, YABU.

The tufty club was road safety for under 5's but was it really to allow that age group out alone?

I was a child of the 60's, i took myself to school at 5 and so did a lot of my friends.

Thinking back, i don't think that more than 3 cars passed me and there were many mums walking as well and in those days, you would quite happily grap a child and tell them off, for misbehaving.

Another 60's child here - I used to walk to school by myself which was a mile. Big roads to cross with the lollipop lady, Birds is right, less traffic then and alot of children walked without an adult then.
DS1 used to go round the corner to the shop aged 5, he's 19 now. I don't think there's any more traffic/danger now compared to 14 years ago.

I too was a fully paid up member of the Tufty Club! It was a different world in the 60s. It was the norm then for children to walk to school unaccompanied from the age of 6 or 7. Dh had to walk to tube station, get tube then walk to a bus stop and get a bus to school, from the start of prep-school i. e. from the age of 7.
A generation later I would not have been comfortable letting my own DCs do the same. Times had (have) changed!
I think 5 is too young to go shopping alone.

I think that we are more aware of the dangers, child sex abuse wasn't talked about, or really addressed.

The recent tragic case of Tia Sharp showed that there are over 200 known child sex offenders living in Croyden and that is about the average in most well populated areas.

I think that if you can remove an unnecessary risk, then you should.

And yet the police are camped out in her grandmothers house. Child sex abusers do no rome the streets loking for prey day in day out and are not on every street corner waiting to pounce.

Roads are safer now than ever and even the 20's plenty mob don't try to use the road safety issue as a way to try to get their bothersome speed reductions in place point across.

The point is if the OP has trained her child in stop look listen then she is the one in best to judge.

And yes I do know it is roam.

YABU.

then she is the one in best to judge.

Why is she asking then

Roads might be safer for other road users, but you ask any cyclist if they are safer for them

more anyone?

Roads are safer because we don't let young children roam.

Traffic calming measures help, but it depends on the road.